El lunes, 1 de febrero de 2021 19:52:34 -03 Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux via Cin escribi�:

> My friend is having a lot of patience with me, today he gave me some good

> advice, but let's focus on Cinelerra GG

> I have forwarded this chain of emails to you. Here is his response.

> $CIN_BROWSER is a variable that just calls firefox.

> What happens if a person does not have firefox installed on their system?

> All the links that use $CIN_BROWSER will not work, they will do nothing.

> Do the test, go to the folder "/usr/bin" with administrator permissions and

> change the name to firefox, with a period behind it is enough.

> Now open Cinelerra from a terminal and try to open the commands you

> mentioned that work with $CIN_BROWSER, the result will be something like

> this:

> /bin/bash: firefox: command not found

> Now open the wizard that I made the button for and click, it is true that

> if you do not have another browser on your system, it will ask you with

> which application you want to open this file, or open it in an html editor,

> or in a text editor.

> In this specific case, when calling a local html file, if someone has

> assigned the opening of this type of file to another application, it will

> be this application that will open it. When this happens it is because the

> person is a programmer or works in web development environments, do not

> worry that he will know how to find the pdfs.

> I am not the right person to waste time making a button that satisfies the

> quirks of a user who does not want the help file to open in their default

> browser and has to be opened in Firefox no matter what. (I already told you

> what happens if firefox is not installed in the system)

> If anyone doubts what his revered $CIN_BROWSER variable really does, check

> the file.inc file at lines 45-46-47 and see what application it calls. I

> already anticipate that it is not enough to change this here, it is not

> that simple, but it is something that I would do, because if you do not

> have firefox Cinelerra it will fail in its calls to links with $CIN_BROWSER

> Don't worry about the [Parent] [RunMessage] error, any competent programmer

> or SysAdmin of Gnu/Linux knows that it is not of the slightest importance,

> and that more than an error it is a simple warning that does not affect to

> the stability or performance of Cinelerra.

> -----------------------------

> After your answer two things have become very clear to me, $CIN_BROWSER is

> no better than xdg-open, it is simply an variable that should be modernized.

> $CIN_BROWSER only works with firefox, xdg-open does not force you to have

> firefox in order to get the Cinelerra links to work.

> -----------------------------

> His advice is I not to waste any more time on a project so full of veteran

> users who believe they are proprietaries of the application and will do

> everything possible to sink any idea that does not come from them, and much

> more if it comes from a newcomer. Sadly, it is something very typical in

> the opensource environment.

> I'm going to heed his advice and take a break from Cinelerra.

> Phyllis, you can still count on me for spanish translations, if you want,

> otherwise, nothing happens, I will understand.

> Here in Spain we say that there are two types of people, those who put oil

> in the wheels so that they roll well and those who put sticks, to stop the

> good work. I am one of those who try to put oil, I cannot be comfortable in

> a team where there are people who dedicate themselves to putting sticks.

> Greetings to everyone, especially Phyllis and Andrew, with whom I have

> really enjoyed collaborating.

> El lun, 1 feb 2021 a las 20:14, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<

> cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribi�:

> > Walter,

> >

> > IMHO I prefer to use environment variables as it was before $ CIN_BROWSER,

> >

> >> since xdg-open, it opens the default browser, but and if I don't want it

> >> to

> >> open the default browser, whatever the reason, it seems more configurable

> >> like

> >> this now .

> >

> > Hopefully we can find a solution that works for everyone. Using

> > $CIN_BROWSER caused a hang and that is why the switch to xdg-open. As a

> > reminder, the hang occurred only when no browser was up already and the ?

> > help key in the Batch Render menu was clicked on -- then you could do no

> > more Cinelerra processing.

> >

> > RafaMar,

> >

> > Thanks for the feedback and I know that your programmer acquaintance is

> > too busy for in depth work. And it is still very much appreciated! I

> > will

> > see if I can find another solution because I really like the ? key.

> > CinelerraGG programming really is much harder than anyone realizes and

> > takes a long, long time to understand all of the intricacies and still

> > problems creep in.

> > --

> > Cin mailing list

> > Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org

> > https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin

I really don't understand what happened here

but, I apologize, it could be that I was misunderstood. and more because my English is not very good. At no point have I wanted to impose my ideas, I only gave a humble opinion and I do not intend to change anything, only for a particular position.

when I talk about environment variables.

It's because GNU / linux users are generally used to doing and playing this, or at least most of it, and I don't think it's difficult to switch to .bashrc or zshrc.

one line to change the browser.

now according to the documentation, firefox is called, if there is no defined variable ($ CIN_BROWSER). in this case if a solution should be sought, as it may be that the user does not use Firefox. but it goes beyond environment variables.

It was just a comment, but I support what's best for everyone on the programming level.

yes for the developer. using is xdg-open is better and avoids later problems great.

you do not need any approval from me friends.

I repeat again. I apologize if my comment caused any inconvenience

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