July monthly builds available BUT lots of clean up still..
We had a lot of problems with the builds yesterday so have a lot of cleanup and documentation fixes to do yet this weekend. Some problems listed here. Tumbleweed (Leap-ish) may be eliminated next month because it is very time-consuming to upgrade this Operating System every month since it is not a distro that we use on a daily basis. It has been a problem every month; for example 2,000 packages had to be updated for it between June 29 and July 29 and then it did not work correctly. Instead we ended up doing a brand new install which also took a lot of time (about 4 hours). So unless we get feedback that it is worth the time, it will be dropped. Leap 15-02 build and Mint 20 are new builds this month but installing has not been tested or updated on the website due to time constraints. Arch, Tumbleweed, and Gentoo are OK but GG had to make some changes. ------------------------ *Release Notes *(found on website as usual) Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 07/01/2020-07/31/2020 for builds 1. *Upgraded several thirdparty libraries* to include: *FFmpeg to 4.3* – with new plugins of asubboost (audio) and addroi, bilateral, cas, dblur, gradients, median, photosensitivity, scdet, scroll, sierpinski, thistogram, tmedian, untile, v360, yaepblur (video) plugins. You can use “i” in the Resources window and mouse on each to get short information. *+ turbo-jpeg, vorbis, x265, vpx, lv2, aom, and dav1d.* 2. Mint 20 builds are now available and Leap is updated to 15.2.2. 3. *Gang modes*, which includes Gang Channels mode for DAW-like editing, has minor improvements: - Using Shift on the gang mode toggle, switches back to the previous mode thus making it easy to see a different view temporarily in order to view the actual track lineup. - Gang Channel icon in the top line of the timeline, is yellow to help make it clear that you are in this mode. The Gang Media icon is red as a warning of this mode. The default Gang None is just in a theme related ordinary color, often white. - A slight change in the order of symbols in the Patchbay has been made for aesthetic purposes. - Wysiwig tweak for ganging set of the Master Track for channels. 4. *Align Timecodes* feature has been added based on different timecodes or timings included with the files. LTC from external generated audio has not been incorporated due to lack of proper test material. Usage description is included temporarily as a pdf file attached to BT# 448 (which prompted this incomplete feature). 5. *Tracks Swap Up/Down* added to the Tracks pulldown to provide previous capability that was in “move up”/”move down”. 6. *Usability Improvements:* In the Viewer window, you can, but no longer have to press Rewind button to start Play over again. This includes play, fast play, play reverse, and fast play reverse (Skinkie BT #463). Many FFmpeg plugins required the use of the Apply button before a parameter change would take effect. Now when you type in a parameter change and hit the Enter key, the change will take effect (Skinkie BT #464). *Auto Rotate for ffmpeg video that has “metadata” *defining the rotation in 90 degree increments has been implemented and is now the default, but you can change this in Settings→Preferences, Appearance, Flags (Ig0r forum “Rotation metadata usage in viewer/compositor”). Added a dump_stack to the generated crash dumps so that this information is always included, thus making user crash dumps more valuable for analysis and potentially fixing the bugs that are found. *Subtitles now have a choice of format* in that menu; srt for SubRip which is now the default, sub for Subviewer and udvd which was the original MicroDVD format (RafaMar BT #475). *Mix master*s menu item added under the Window pulldown → Mixers subwindow. This additional feature makes it very easy to get into the multi-camera mixer mode after tracks have already been set up and edited. When using “File by Reference” if you exit without “saving”, a reminder will popup to allow you to choose to save so that you do not lose work. Minor Spanish translation update (from Rafamar). 7. *Bugs/Issues fixed:* The “drag” checkbox for the following plugins has had a major rework done: Sketcher, CriKey, Title, Tracer, and Boxblur Change prompted by BT #482 from RafaMar which was a bug. Two additional bugs were found while working this problem and have now been fixed too. The “drag” value is no longer saved in the keyframe. Problem with resizing the textbox with the Y axis has been fixed (RafaMar BT #456, subtitle). The Mask has been tweaked to fix an edge case of 128 cpus which lead to undesirable lines. An Index bug that has been around for some time where the drawing on the timeline did not complete, has been fixed. A reference count has been added in 19 places to keep track of cache as a design implementation change to resolve occasional SEGV crashes. Fixed break created by creating a clip in OpenEDL edit mode (Fary54 BT #470). Fixed a bug in ffmpeg scan remap code. Applied a modified patch for configure.ac with a precedence problem in at least 3 different places (Ferdnyc supplied patch information in BT 473). Hang cinelerra_18388.dmp when use “s” in OpenEDL level (BT #470 Fary54 and Andrea both reproduced this bug). If Render Farm is enabled and you render a single frame, it was creating multiple output instead of just 1. This is now fixed. ResampleRT plugin to speed up and slow down the audio is now fixed (Houku BT#474). A fix for a segv that occurred while testing has been made also. Fixed affine.C and interp.h which are used in the Motion and Perspective plugins, as well as in other places, for various boundary conditions (Georgy aka sge, patch in BT #474). A mod has been added to fix usage of Paste in the Resources window when preview media is enabled (RafaMar BT # 476). PatchB for ffmpeg is a temporary patch until a new release that includes this ssse3 patch is available. It fixes a padding issue of 16 as 4 was insufficient. A fix for another vicon thread lock problem has been added through rework (Armandux BT #481) + fixed a discovered problem of vicon interruption during a render operation. Tweaked Closed Caption text fonts (for personal use). Fixed sync EDL for plugin gui flip out and tweaked plugin gui id’s. Changed vrender reconfigure to fix a problem. Added listbox selection index range tests to prevent issues. Modification made to the build procedure to allow for Cuda version 11. A fix to also change the length in OpenEDL of the audio has been added (Fary54 BT#430).
В сообщении от Saturday 01 August 2020 19:00:56 Phyllis Smith via Cin написал(а):
We had a lot of problems with the builds yesterday so have a lot of cleanup and documentation fixes to do yet this weekend. Some problems listed here.
Problems nearly always sad and definitely time consuming.. Sorry to hear that. I was looking at gitweb, and new tag (2020-07 ?) not yet appeared, so I can sleep some more and wait for clean-up to complete. Thanks a ton, everyone!
Tumbleweed (Leap-ish) may be eliminated next month because it is very time-consuming to upgrade this Operating System every month since it is not a distro that we use on a daily basis. It has been a problem every month; for example 2,000 packages had to be updated for it between June 29 and July 29 and then it did not work correctly. Instead we ended up doing a brand new install which also took a lot of time (about 4 hours). So unless we get feedback that it is worth the time, it will be dropped.
Leap 15-02 build and Mint 20 are new builds this month but installing has not been tested or updated on the website due to time constraints. Arch, Tumbleweed, and Gentoo are OK but GG had to make some changes.
------------------------ *Release Notes *(found on website as usual)
Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 07/01/2020-07/31/2020 for builds
1. *Upgraded several thirdparty libraries* to include: *FFmpeg to 4.3* – with new plugins of asubboost (audio) and addroi, bilateral, cas, dblur, gradients, median, photosensitivity, scdet, scroll, sierpinski, thistogram, tmedian, untile, v360, yaepblur (video) plugins. You can use “i” in the Resources window and mouse on each to get short information. *+ turbo-jpeg, vorbis, x265, vpx, lv2, aom, and dav1d.* 2. Mint 20 builds are now available and Leap is updated to 15.2.2. 3. *Gang modes*, which includes Gang Channels mode for DAW-like editing, has minor improvements: - Using Shift on the gang mode toggle, switches back to the previous mode thus making it easy to see a different view temporarily in order to view the actual track lineup. - Gang Channel icon in the top line of the timeline, is yellow to help make it clear that you are in this mode. The Gang Media icon is red as a warning of this mode. The default Gang None is just in a theme related ordinary color, often white. - A slight change in the order of symbols in the Patchbay has been made for aesthetic purposes. - Wysiwig tweak for ganging set of the Master Track for channels. 4. *Align Timecodes* feature has been added based on different timecodes or timings included with the files. LTC from external generated audio has not been incorporated due to lack of proper test material. Usage description is included temporarily as a pdf file attached to BT# 448 (which prompted this incomplete feature). 5. *Tracks Swap Up/Down* added to the Tracks pulldown to provide previous capability that was in “move up”/”move down”. 6. *Usability Improvements:* In the Viewer window, you can, but no longer have to press Rewind button to start Play over again. This includes play, fast play, play reverse, and fast play reverse (Skinkie BT #463). Many FFmpeg plugins required the use of the Apply button before a parameter change would take effect. Now when you type in a parameter change and hit the Enter key, the change will take effect (Skinkie BT #464). *Auto Rotate for ffmpeg video that has “metadata” *defining the rotation in 90 degree increments has been implemented and is now the default, but you can change this in Settings→Preferences, Appearance, Flags (Ig0r forum “Rotation metadata usage in viewer/compositor”). Added a dump_stack to the generated crash dumps so that this information is always included, thus making user crash dumps more valuable for analysis and potentially fixing the bugs that are found. *Subtitles now have a choice of format* in that menu; srt for SubRip which is now the default, sub for Subviewer and udvd which was the original MicroDVD format (RafaMar BT #475). *Mix master*s menu item added under the Window pulldown → Mixers subwindow. This additional feature makes it very easy to get into the multi-camera mixer mode after tracks have already been set up and edited. When using “File by Reference” if you exit without “saving”, a reminder will popup to allow you to choose to save so that you do not lose work. Minor Spanish translation update (from Rafamar). 7. *Bugs/Issues fixed:* The “drag” checkbox for the following plugins has had a major rework done: Sketcher, CriKey, Title, Tracer, and Boxblur Change prompted by BT #482 from RafaMar which was a bug. Two additional bugs were found while working this problem and have now been fixed too. The “drag” value is no longer saved in the keyframe. Problem with resizing the textbox with the Y axis has been fixed (RafaMar BT #456, subtitle). The Mask has been tweaked to fix an edge case of 128 cpus which lead to undesirable lines. An Index bug that has been around for some time where the drawing on the timeline did not complete, has been fixed. A reference count has been added in 19 places to keep track of cache as a design implementation change to resolve occasional SEGV crashes. Fixed break created by creating a clip in OpenEDL edit mode (Fary54 BT #470). Fixed a bug in ffmpeg scan remap code. Applied a modified patch for configure.ac with a precedence problem in at least 3 different places (Ferdnyc supplied patch information in BT 473). Hang cinelerra_18388.dmp when use “s” in OpenEDL level (BT #470 Fary54 and Andrea both reproduced this bug). If Render Farm is enabled and you render a single frame, it was creating multiple output instead of just 1. This is now fixed. ResampleRT plugin to speed up and slow down the audio is now fixed (Houku BT#474). A fix for a segv that occurred while testing has been made also. Fixed affine.C and interp.h which are used in the Motion and Perspective plugins, as well as in other places, for various boundary conditions (Georgy aka sge, patch in BT #474). A mod has been added to fix usage of Paste in the Resources window when preview media is enabled (RafaMar BT # 476). PatchB for ffmpeg is a temporary patch until a new release that includes this ssse3 patch is available. It fixes a padding issue of 16 as 4 was insufficient. A fix for another vicon thread lock problem has been added through rework (Armandux BT #481) + fixed a discovered problem of vicon interruption during a render operation. Tweaked Closed Caption text fonts (for personal use). Fixed sync EDL for plugin gui flip out and tweaked plugin gui id’s. Changed vrender reconfigure to fix a problem. Added listbox selection index range tests to prevent issues. Modification made to the build procedure to allow for Cuda version 11. A fix to also change the length in OpenEDL of the audio has been added (Fary54 BT#430).
Andrew,
We had a lot of problems with the builds yesterday so have a lot of cleanup and documentation fixes to do yet this weekend. Some problems listed here.
Problems nearly always sad and definitely time consuming.. Sorry to hear that.
I was looking at gitweb, and new tag (2020-07 ?) not yet appeared, so I can sleep some more and wait for clean-up to complete.
OK, you and the dog can wake up now as the Tag has been added ! We did not add the updated Russian translations as you mentioned to wait, but I wanted to make sure that I did not miss your email as sometimes it ends up in spam and I never look there).
В сообщении от Saturday 01 August 2020 23:43:20 Phyllis Smith via Cin написал(а):
Andrew,
We had a lot of problems with the builds yesterday so have a lot of cleanup and documentation fixes to do yet this weekend. Some problems listed here.
Problems nearly always sad and definitely time consuming.. Sorry to hear that.
I was looking at gitweb, and new tag (2020-07 ?) not yet appeared, so I can sleep some more and wait for clean-up to complete.
OK, you and the dog can wake up now as the Tag has been added ! We did not add the updated Russian translations as you mentioned to wait, but I wanted to make sure that I did not miss your email as sometimes it ends up in spam and I never look there).
Ok, thanks! I compiled and tested it briefly - seems to work (loading mp4 video, cutting a bit, adding fade keyframes, selecting region and rendering it into mkv vp9) Yes, I also had few emails from Cin in spam folder today. But now they arrived in normal inbox (gmail). Probably Google had bad day! {I'm fairly sure Internet Wayback Machine had - it keep throwing err 500 or even 520 at me!} On 10-bit front - I still have those patches around, one required minor fixing today ... in patch3 just try to remove -DENABLE_ASSEMBLY=OFF statements - 10/12-bit assembly only exist for x86_64 ... For thirdparty/makefile patch you probably need to cut off additional parameters - I add it after another my patch, for build trimming (on disk space/compilation/linking time)
Hi, My feedback included below: Den 01.08.2020 18:00, skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin:
We had a lot of problems with the builds yesterday so have a lot of cleanup and documentation fixes to do yet this weekend. Some problems listed here.
Tumbleweed (Leap-ish) may be eliminated next month because it is very time-consuming to upgrade this Operating System every month since it is not a distro that we use on a daily basis. It has been a problem every month; for example 2,000 packages had to be updated for it between June 29 and July 29 and then it did not work correctly. Instead we ended up doing a brand new install which also took a lot of time (about 4 hours). So unless we get feedback that it is worth the time, it will be dropped.
openSUSE Tumbleweed is a rolling developement release, which is constantly updated and always at the 'latest release' So I aggree to concentrate the Cinelerra builts on the maintained, regular and stable production platform Leap, currently 15.1 and 15.2 (next 15.3 expected June 2021). And I really hope also Cinelerra10bit will be continued ;)
Leap 15-02 build and Mint 20 are new builds this month but installing has not been tested or updated on the website due to time constraints. Arch, Tumbleweed, and Gentoo are OK but GG had to make some changes.
ref. my email earlier today: [Cin] July upgrade on openSUSE Leap 15.2 Rgds, Terje J. Hanssen
Am 01.08.20 um 21:37 schrieb Terje J. Hanssen via Cin:
Tumbleweed (Leap-ish) may be eliminated next month because it is very time-consuming to upgrade this Operating System every month since it is not a distro that we use on a daily basis. It has been a problem every month; for example 2,000 packages had to be updated for it between June 29 and July 29 and then it did not work correctly. Instead we ended up doing a brand new install which also took a lot of time (about 4 hours). So unless we get feedback that it is worth the time, it will be dropped.
openSUSE Tumbleweed is a rolling developement release, which is constantly updated and always at the 'latest release' So I aggree to concentrate the Cinelerra builts on the maintained, regular and stable production platform Leap, currently 15.1 and 15.2 (next 15.3 expected June 2021). And I really hope also Cinelerra10bit will be continued ;)
As a long-time OpenSUSE user and who also used Tumbleweed for a year, I can only recommend focusing on the stable branch. Tumbleweed is changing too much. As a result, my system has often been broken. For this reason, I have switched back to the more stable Leap branch and do not regret this step in any way. I think that we are well advised to create Cinelerra only for the stable Leap branch, because problems with a rolling release operating system are not uncommon. Our resource management strategy requires careful consideration, so I think we could focus our resources on more important tasks. Therefore I can agree with the previous speakers. Sam
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