Hi, I"m currently using cinelerra to master conference video's and am overlaying slides and videos doing fades between the slides and several video streams. One of the things I'm really missing is a monitor of each of the tracks. I have been using the mixer windows, but that only shows the post-mix view so if the track is muted or faded to 0 I can't see whats showing on that track. Is their a way to have a pre-fade/mute monitor view for each track - ideally with a toggle of pre or post effect/camera/projector? Thanks Daniel. -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722
Probably I do not quite understand what you are doing, but if you want to see the original media with no effects/autos, why not just "Open in new viewer" - you can do that for each of them? You can select all of them in the Resources window, and open them all at once. And, of course, you would still have your mixer windows. gg/phyllis I"m currently using cinelerra to master conference video's and am
overlaying slides and videos doing fades between the slides and several video streams.
One of the things I'm really missing is a monitor of each of the tracks. I have been using the mixer windows, but that only shows the post-mix view so if the track is muted or faded to 0 I can't see whats showing on that track.
Hi Phyllis, Perhaps a picture will help.. I have 2 camera recordings that provide the complete timeline for a whole days footage, and I'm adding in additional content like slides that were put on the screen. What I'm ideally after is a monitor for each video track at the point before it enters the mixer, and presents that tracks image at the cursor. It would be what the mixer view presents but before any fade/mute/mix is applied. It would be nice to be able to select between pre and post effects. Perhaps it could be done by extending the mixer viewer paradigm to be a multi-stage moniter - able to select the following modes: a) Input signal: this is the view you'd see from this track at the timelines cursor but before any effects, fade/mute or mixing stages. It would be like seeing what the raw frame of a 2nd camera feed looks like at that point in the timeline. This would be useful for doing things like aligning video from commodity camera's where different angles of the same footage can be aligned to saw a clapper board. b) Prefade - This is a view of the Input signal of the track the primary effects including camera and projector effect applied, but before the fader/mute stage. This would be used to see the track Input signal with the effects applied. It would useful particularly for preparing picture in picture overlays and ensuring that before fading between tracks c) Mixer view - This the same as the current Mixer view. On 12/03/19 14:27, Phyllis Smith wrote:
Probably I do not quite understand what you are doing, but if you want to see the original media with no effects/autos, why not just "Open in new viewer" - you can do that for each of them? You can select all of them in the Resources window, and open them all at once. And, of course, you would still have your mixer windows. gg/phyllis
I"m currently using cinelerra to master conference video's and am overlaying slides and videos doing fades between the slides and several video streams.
One of the things I'm really missing is a monitor of each of the tracks. I have been using the mixer windows, but that only shows the post-mix view so if the track is muted or faded to 0 I can't see whats showing on that track.
-- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722
Hi Daniel, take a look at screencast, please. https://streamable.com/sl2wi Shared track function. It works for the Autos: Camera, Projector, Fade. Not for Effects and Transitions. IgorBeg PS: The original idea is not mine but by igor_ubuntu user. Original thread to https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2018q4/010316.html (Thanks again igor_ubuntu, everywhere you are!) Il 12/03/2019 5.01, Daniel Reurich ha scritto:
Hi Phyllis,
Perhaps a picture will help..
I have 2 camera recordings that provide the complete timeline for a whole days footage, and I'm adding in additional content like slides that were put on the screen.
What I'm ideally after is a monitor for each video track at the point before it enters the mixer, and presents that tracks image at the cursor. It would be what the mixer view presents but before any fade/mute/mix is applied. It would be nice to be able to select between pre and post effects.
Perhaps it could be done by extending the mixer viewer paradigm to be a multi-stage moniter - able to select the following modes:
a) Input signal: this is the view you'd see from this track at the timelines cursor but before any effects, fade/mute or mixing stages.
It would be like seeing what the raw frame of a 2nd camera feed looks like at that point in the timeline. This would be useful for doing things like aligning video from commodity camera's where different angles of the same footage can be aligned to saw a clapper board.
b) Prefade - This is a view of the Input signal of the track the primary effects including camera and projector effect applied, but before the fader/mute stage.
This would be used to see the track Input signal with the effects applied. It would useful particularly for preparing picture in picture overlays and ensuring that before fading between tracks
c) Mixer view - This the same as the current Mixer view.
Great demostration Igor! I didn't know that was possible. Great thing. Sam On 12.03.19 15:06, Igor BEGHETTO wrote:
Hi Daniel, take a look at screencast, please. https://streamable.com/sl2wi Shared track function. It works for the Autos: Camera, Projector, Fade. Not for Effects and Transitions.
IgorBeg
PS: The original idea is not mine but by igor_ubuntu user. Original thread to https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2018q4/010316.html (Thanks again igor_ubuntu, everywhere you are!)
Il 12/03/2019 5.01, Daniel Reurich ha scritto:
Hi Phyllis,
Perhaps a picture will help..
I have 2 camera recordings that provide the complete timeline for a whole days footage, and I'm adding in additional content like slides that were put on the screen.
What I'm ideally after is a monitor for each video track at the point before it enters the mixer, and presents that tracks image at the cursor. It would be what the mixer view presents but before any fade/mute/mix is applied. It would be nice to be able to select between pre and post effects.
Perhaps it could be done by extending the mixer viewer paradigm to be a multi-stage moniter - able to select the following modes:
a) Input signal: this is the view you'd see from this track at the timelines cursor but before any effects, fade/mute or mixing stages.
It would be like seeing what the raw frame of a 2nd camera feed looks like at that point in the timeline. This would be useful for doing things like aligning video from commodity camera's where different angles of the same footage can be aligned to saw a clapper board.
b) Prefade - This is a view of the Input signal of the track the primary effects including camera and projector effect applied, but before the fader/mute stage.
This would be used to see the track Input signal with the effects applied. It would useful particularly for preparing picture in picture overlays and ensuring that before fading between tracks
c) Mixer view - This the same as the current Mixer view.
Can I put your tutorial video on the forum?
@Andrea_paz my screencast is for community, then you can do what you want. Please, put the credits to igor_ubuntu (it is a his goodtrick/workaround) Thanks. @Daniel I agree with you to have in the patchbay track a button to temporarily enable/disable all Effects/Autos in that track to see before/after, but not "integrated into the mixer window", for me. IgorBeg
Thanks Igor, That's a great work around, but seems somewhat obtuse having to create extra tracks to have a monitor. Surely this could be and should be integrated into the mixer window [perhaps renamed monitor] and add pushbottons to select between input, prefade, and mixer views. Of course I will use that trick in the meantime ;-) On 13/03/19 03:06, Igor BEGHETTO wrote:
Hi Daniel, take a look at screencast, please. https://streamable.com/sl2wi Shared track function. It works for the Autos: Camera, Projector, Fade. Not for Effects and Transitions.
IgorBeg
PS: The original idea is not mine but by igor_ubuntu user. Original thread to https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2018q4/010316.html (Thanks again igor_ubuntu, everywhere you are!)
Il 12/03/2019 5.01, Daniel Reurich ha scritto:
Hi Phyllis,
Perhaps a picture will help..
I have 2 camera recordings that provide the complete timeline for a whole days footage, and I'm adding in additional content like slides that were put on the screen.
What I'm ideally after is a monitor for each video track at the point before it enters the mixer, and presents that tracks image at the cursor. It would be what the mixer view presents but before any fade/mute/mix is applied. It would be nice to be able to select between pre and post effects.
Perhaps it could be done by extending the mixer viewer paradigm to be a multi-stage moniter - able to select the following modes:
a) Input signal: this is the view you'd see from this track at the timelines cursor but before any effects, fade/mute or mixing stages.
It would be like seeing what the raw frame of a 2nd camera feed looks like at that point in the timeline. This would be useful for doing things like aligning video from commodity camera's where different angles of the same footage can be aligned to saw a clapper board.
b) Prefade - This is a view of the Input signal of the track the primary effects including camera and projector effect applied, but before the fader/mute stage.
This would be used to see the track Input signal with the effects applied. It would useful particularly for preparing picture in picture overlays and ensuring that before fading between tracks
c) Mixer view - This the same as the current Mixer view.
-- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722
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