Re: [Cin] Cinelerra-GG packages build farm
This is very much appreciated as there are some definite advantages to having packages as opposed to the appimage -- in my opinion the most beneficial is the ability to get the updates applied automatically when there is a new version available (if enabled by the user). I assume it is OK for me to add this to the manual in the section: Distro with CINELERRA-GG Included . On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 5:14 AM Андрей Спицын <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Phyllis and everyone,
I've created a build farm for cinelerra deb and rpm packages. Although it is at an early stage of development, it can build packages on every git change in the main repo. Feel free to use these packages at https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases. Note that releases correspond to a build date, not a git commit date. Current build hosts are debian 12 and alma linux 8. I'm open to suggestions for a new distro and packages.
Best regards, Andrey Spitsyn
I will suggest to add openSUSE Leap 15.5 among the distributions. A first test of the current rpm package dependices: nothing provides 'libIlmImf-2_2.so.22()(64bit)' needed by the to be installed cinelerra-5.1-20231008.x86_64 Leap 15.5 provides libIlmImf-2_2.so.23()(64bit) Rgds Terje J. Hanssen Den 08.10.2023 21:39, skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin:
This is very much appreciated as there are some definite advantages to having packages as opposed to the appimage -- in my opinion the most beneficial is the ability to get the updates applied automatically when there is a new version available (if enabled by the user).
I assume it is OK for me to add this to the manual in the section: Distro with CINELERRA-GG Included .
On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 5:14 AM Андрей Спицын <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Phyllis and everyone,
I've created a build farm for cinelerra deb and rpm packages. Although it is at an early stage of development, it can build packages on every git change in the main repo. Feel free to use these packages at https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases. Note that releases correspond to a build date, not a git commit date. Current build hosts are debian 12 and alma linux 8. I'm open to suggestions for a new distro and packages.
Best regards, Andrey Spitsyn
Great work! Perhaps prepare packages for the most commonly used distros. E.g. Ubuntu and Fedora...
I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be seven left to maintain: 1. arch 2. debian 3. fedora 4. leap 5. mint 6. slk 7. ub https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_... https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/
Suse Leap 15.5, Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 packages are ready at https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases Best regards, Andrey вт, 10 окт. 2023 г., 05:34 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be seven left to maintain:
1. arch 2. debian 3. fedora 4. leap 5. mint 6. slk 7. ub
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_... https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/
Excellent ! and Thank You ! On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 9:33 AM Андрей Спицын via Cin < [email protected]> wrote:
Suse Leap 15.5, Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 packages are ready at https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases
Best regards, Andrey
вт, 10 окт. 2023 г., 05:34 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be seven left to maintain:
1. arch 2. debian 3. fedora 4. leap 5. mint 6. slk 7. ub
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_... https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/
-- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Perhaps for Arch you can do without building the package, since it is already in AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cinelerra-gg
Hi Andrey, Thanks a lot. I have done a test installation on my Leap 15.5 ultrabook here on GranCanaria 🙂 and thought I would report back my installation result. On beforehand I had two older Cinelerra appimages and also two rpm builds installed, 2022 and 2020 (10bit) ls -1 ~/Applications CinGG-20221031-multibit_9025b6fb538a4e49f7975611ebf4fa80.AppImage CinGG-20221031-x86_64_41bbe64fb7ee548ec14fd95894d184f6.AppImage Apparantly the new Cinelerra 2023 rpm build did install correctly over the 2022 build, because after the installation I have zypper se -is cinelerra Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+----------------+---------+--------------+--------+------------------ i+ | cinelerra | package | 5.1-20231110 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i+ | cinelerra10bit | package | 5.1-20201031 | x86_64 | (System Packages) ls -1 /usr/bin/cin* /usr/bin/cin /usr/bin/cinx Test startups of both cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 10 2023 01:49:25 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy 2003-2017 mods for Cinelerra-CV by CinelerraCV team 2015-2023 mods for Cinelerra-GG by Cinelerra-GG team Libav version: Lavc59.37.100 cinx Cinelerra Infinity - built: Oct 31 2020 11:39:15 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy ---------------------------- Installation output: zypper in https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases/download/20231110/cine... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following package is going to be upgraded: cinelerra The following NEW package is going to be installed: libsuil-0-0 1 package to upgrade, 1 new. Overall download size: 58.8 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 7.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 (OBS Multimedia:/libs/15.5/) (1/2), 17.5 KiB Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64.rpm ...........................................................................[done (57.4 KiB/s)] Retrieving: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) (2/2), 58.8 MiB cinelerra-5.1-20231110.suse15.x86_64.rpm: Package header is not signed! cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache): Signature verification failed [6-File is unsigned] Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a): i Checking for file conflicts: .................................................................................................................[error] Detected 3 file conflicts: File /usr/bin/bdwrite from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System) File /usr/bin/zmpeg3cc2txt from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System) File /usr/bin/zmpeg3ifochk from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System) File conflicts happen when two packages attempt to install files with the same name but different contents. If you continue, conflicting files will be replaced losing the previous content. Continue? [yes/no] (no): y (1/2) Installing: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 ......................................................................................[done] (2/2) Installing: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 ...............................................................................................[done] Den 10.11.2023 17:33, skrev Андрей Спицын:
Suse Leap 15.5, Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 packages are ready at https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases
Best regards, Andrey
вт, 10 окт. 2023 г., 05:34 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be seven left to maintain:
1. arch 2. debian 3. fedora 4. leap 5. mint 6. slk 7. ub
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_... https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/
Terje, thanks for testing!
conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit Should I add a conflicting dependency with this package?
Best regards, Andrey вс, 12 нояб. 2023 г., 17:36 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
Hi Andrey, Thanks a lot.
I have done a test installation on my Leap 15.5 ultrabook here on GranCanaria 🙂 and thought I would report back my installation result.
On beforehand I had two older Cinelerra appimages and also two rpm builds installed, 2022 and 2020 (10bit)
ls -1 ~/Applications CinGG-20221031-multibit_9025b6fb538a4e49f7975611ebf4fa80.AppImage CinGG-20221031-x86_64_41bbe64fb7ee548ec14fd95894d184f6.AppImage
Apparantly the new Cinelerra 2023 rpm build did install correctly over the 2022 build, because after the installation I have
zypper se -is cinelerra Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+----------------+---------+--------------+--------+------------------ i+ | cinelerra | package | 5.1-20231110 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i+ | cinelerra10bit | package | 5.1-20201031 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
ls -1 /usr/bin/cin* /usr/bin/cin /usr/bin/cinx
Test startups of both
cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 10 2023 01:49:25 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy 2003-2017 mods for Cinelerra-CV by CinelerraCV team 2015-2023 mods for Cinelerra-GG by Cinelerra-GG team
Libav version: Lavc59.37.100
cinx Cinelerra Infinity - built: Oct 31 2020 11:39:15 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
----------------------------
Installation output:
zypper in
https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases/download/20231110/cine... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following package is going to be upgraded: cinelerra
The following NEW package is going to be installed: libsuil-0-0
1 package to upgrade, 1 new. Overall download size: 58.8 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 7.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 (OBS Multimedia:/libs/15.5/) (1/2), 17.5 KiB Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64.rpm ...........................................................................[done
(57.4 KiB/s)] Retrieving: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) (2/2), 58.8 MiB cinelerra-5.1-20231110.suse15.x86_64.rpm: Package header is not signed!
cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache): Signature verification failed [6-File is unsigned] Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a): i
Checking for file conflicts:
.................................................................................................................[error] Detected 3 file conflicts:
File /usr/bin/bdwrite from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/bin/zmpeg3cc2txt from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/bin/zmpeg3ifochk from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File conflicts happen when two packages attempt to install files with the same name but different contents. If you continue, conflicting files will be replaced losing the previous content. Continue? [yes/no] (no): y
(1/2) Installing: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64
......................................................................................[done] (2/2) Installing: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64
...............................................................................................[done]
Den 10.11.2023 17:33, skrev Андрей Спицын:
Suse Leap 15.5, Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 packages are ready at https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases
Best regards, Andrey
вт, 10 окт. 2023 г., 05:34 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be seven left to maintain:
1. arch 2. debian 3. fedora 4. leap 5. mint 6. slk 7. ub
https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_...
Andrey,
conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit Should I add a conflicting dependency with this package?
I am not sure; this was vs a rather old 2020 version. Other here may be more qualified to clarify this ;) If you possibly add also a new 2023 10bit build (or multibit as for appimage), it possibly will clarify what need to be done so they can work side by side (?) Terje Den 12.11.2023 22:25, skrev Андрей Спицын:
Terje, thanks for testing!
conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit Should I add a conflicting dependency with this package?
Best regards, Andrey
вс, 12 нояб. 2023 г., 17:36 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
Hi Andrey, Thanks a lot.
I have done a test installation on my Leap 15.5 ultrabook here on GranCanaria 🙂 and thought I would report back my installation result.
On beforehand I had two older Cinelerra appimages and also two rpm builds installed, 2022 and 2020 (10bit)
ls -1 ~/Applications CinGG-20221031-multibit_9025b6fb538a4e49f7975611ebf4fa80.AppImage CinGG-20221031-x86_64_41bbe64fb7ee548ec14fd95894d184f6.AppImage
Apparantly the new Cinelerra 2023 rpm build did install correctly over the 2022 build, because after the installation I have
zypper se -is cinelerra Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+----------------+---------+--------------+--------+------------------ i+ | cinelerra | package | 5.1-20231110 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i+ | cinelerra10bit | package | 5.1-20201031 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
ls -1 /usr/bin/cin* /usr/bin/cin /usr/bin/cinx
Test startups of both
cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 10 2023 01:49:25 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git <http://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git> (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy 2003-2017 mods for Cinelerra-CV by CinelerraCV team 2015-2023 mods for Cinelerra-GG by Cinelerra-GG team
Libav version: Lavc59.37.100
cinx Cinelerra Infinity - built: Oct 31 2020 11:39:15 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git <http://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git> (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
----------------------------
Installation output:
zypper in https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases/download/20231110/cine... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following package is going to be upgraded: cinelerra
The following NEW package is going to be installed: libsuil-0-0
1 package to upgrade, 1 new. Overall download size: 58.8 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 7.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 (OBS Multimedia:/libs/15.5/) (1/2), 17.5 KiB Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64.rpm ...........................................................................[done
(57.4 KiB/s)] Retrieving: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) (2/2), 58.8 MiB cinelerra-5.1-20231110.suse15.x86_64.rpm: Package header is not signed!
cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache): Signature verification failed [6-File is unsigned] Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a): i
Checking for file conflicts: .................................................................................................................[error] Detected 3 file conflicts:
File /usr/bin/bdwrite from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/bin/zmpeg3cc2txt from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/bin/zmpeg3ifochk from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File conflicts happen when two packages attempt to install files with the same name but different contents. If you continue, conflicting files will be replaced losing the previous content. Continue? [yes/no] (no): y
(1/2) Installing: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 ......................................................................................[done] (2/2) Installing: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 ...............................................................................................[done]
Den 10.11.2023 17:33, skrev Андрей Спицын: > Suse Leap 15.5, Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 packages are ready at > https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases > > Best regards, > Andrey > > вт, 10 окт. 2023 г., 05:34 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>: > > I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list > to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be > seven left to maintain: > > 1. arch > 2. debian > 3. fedora > 4. leap > 5. mint > 6. slk > 7. ub > > https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_... > https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ > > > > >
I found some related links : https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Cinx_aBita_Confusion.ht... https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Multibit_build_x265_8_1... https://vk.com/@cinelerra-rss-1751680516-653559635 Den 12.11.2023 23:01, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
Andrey,
conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit Should I add a conflicting dependency with this package?
I am not sure; this was vs a rather old 2020 version. Other here may be more qualified to clarify this ;) If you possibly add also a new 2023 10bit build (or multibit as for appimage), it possibly will clarify what need to be done so they can work side by side (?)
Terje
Den 12.11.2023 22:25, skrev Андрей Спицын:
Terje, thanks for testing!
conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit Should I add a conflicting dependency with this package?
Best regards, Andrey
вс, 12 нояб. 2023 г., 17:36 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
Hi Andrey, Thanks a lot.
I have done a test installation on my Leap 15.5 ultrabook here on GranCanaria 🙂 and thought I would report back my installation result.
On beforehand I had two older Cinelerra appimages and also two rpm builds installed, 2022 and 2020 (10bit)
ls -1 ~/Applications CinGG-20221031-multibit_9025b6fb538a4e49f7975611ebf4fa80.AppImage CinGG-20221031-x86_64_41bbe64fb7ee548ec14fd95894d184f6.AppImage
Apparantly the new Cinelerra 2023 rpm build did install correctly over the 2022 build, because after the installation I have
zypper se -is cinelerra Loading repository data... Reading installed packages...
S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+----------------+---------+--------------+--------+------------------ i+ | cinelerra | package | 5.1-20231110 | x86_64 | (System Packages) i+ | cinelerra10bit | package | 5.1-20201031 | x86_64 | (System Packages)
ls -1 /usr/bin/cin* /usr/bin/cin /usr/bin/cinx
Test startups of both
cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 10 2023 01:49:25 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git <http://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git> (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy 2003-2017 mods for Cinelerra-CV by CinelerraCV team 2015-2023 mods for Cinelerra-GG by Cinelerra-GG team
Libav version: Lavc59.37.100
cinx Cinelerra Infinity - built: Oct 31 2020 11:39:15 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git <http://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git> (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy
----------------------------
Installation output:
zypper in https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases/download/20231110/cine... Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...
The following package is going to be upgraded: cinelerra
The following NEW package is going to be installed: libsuil-0-0
1 package to upgrade, 1 new. Overall download size: 58.8 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation, additional 7.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/v/...? shows all options] (y): Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 (OBS Multimedia:/libs/15.5/) (1/2), 17.5 KiB Retrieving: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64.rpm ...........................................................................[done
(57.4 KiB/s)] Retrieving: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) (2/2), 58.8 MiB cinelerra-5.1-20231110.suse15.x86_64.rpm: Package header is not signed!
cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache): Signature verification failed [6-File is unsigned] Abort, retry, ignore? [a/r/i] (a): i
Checking for file conflicts: .................................................................................................................[error] Detected 3 file conflicts:
File /usr/bin/bdwrite from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/bin/zmpeg3cc2txt from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File /usr/bin/zmpeg3ifochk from install of cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 (Plain RPM files cache) conflicts with file from package cinelerra10bit-5.1-20201031.x86_64 (@System)
File conflicts happen when two packages attempt to install files with the same name but different contents. If you continue, conflicting files will be replaced losing the previous content. Continue? [yes/no] (no): y
(1/2) Installing: libsuil-0-0-0.10.18-lp155.32.12.x86_64 ......................................................................................[done] (2/2) Installing: cinelerra-5.1-20231110.x86_64 ...............................................................................................[done]
Den 10.11.2023 17:33, skrev Андрей Спицын: > Suse Leap 15.5, Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 packages are ready at > https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases > > Best regards, > Andrey > > вт, 10 окт. 2023 г., 05:34 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>: > > I.e by shortening and simplifying the previous Cin-GG package list > to the newest (current) release of each distribution, there may be > seven left to maintain: > > 1. arch > 2. debian > 3. fedora > 4. leap > 5. mint > 6. slk > 7. ub > > https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Download_Already_Built_... > https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ > > > > >
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