A video from last year, discussing the state of editing in Linux. There is no mention of CinGG. It is mentioned in a commentary, but they immediately reply that it is unusable because of the audio tracks being separate from the video tracks and the Title plugin not being up to par. Other notable shortcomings of the video are Krita (which has better color support than Gimp), Blender, Natron and especially the magnificent Inkscape (for titles and high-quality graphics). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltrot3s82Ys
чт, 17 авг. 2023 г., 09:44 Andrea paz via Cin <[email protected]>:
A video from last year, discussing the state of editing in Linux. There is no mention of CinGG. It is mentioned in a commentary, but they immediately reply that it is unusable because of the audio tracks being separate from the video tracks and the Title plugin not being up to par. Other notable shortcomings of the video are Krita (which has better color support than Gimp), Blender, Natron and especially the magnificent Inkscape (for titles and high-quality graphics).
Thanks! Video is relatively short (10 min) so covering more packages (and details of workflows!) probably was impossible to fit. I tend to agree professionals often locked into proprietary "ecosystem" and this makes them (or even us, indirectly) captive audience! Underlaying system also sure suffer from video apparently being a bit of second class citizen compared to games and some CAD software ... https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/24573 plus https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/21305 still needed on free (and nearly libre ..modulo video firmware!) AMD drivers to get OpenCL<->OpenGL interoperability. There are also another fixes not yet merged, like https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/24677 but hopefully they will be merged sooner .... And on my low-end nouveau card nouveau driver asserts on "interlaced" if I try to use mpv's vaapi output, and vdpau support a bit of flake on seeking even when it works (depend on kernel and mesa version). Those are interesting cases to scratch my head in search of "why it broken" but sadly without any victorious outcome.... PS: not yet read comments on video, hopefully some misconceptions like "kdenvlive can't use encode hw acceleration" will be (or were) cleared up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltrot3s82Ys
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WOW, I saw your message exchange in mesa/gitlab. Thank you for the effort you put into such a complicated matter! Linux, of course, is carried forward by the interests and skills of the contributors. Unfortunately, video editing, color management and other professional areas have never been developed much. Mesa is also developing very slowly, in an area where proprietary drivers are advancing at great speed. I have read that many video editing professionals would prefer Linux over Windows or macOS because of the greater simplicity and power in networking (rsync; render farm; lower risk of data loss; etc.). But so far only Blackmagic and Lightworks have tried to approach Linux, without too much effort. PS: in the comments, users point out that at the exact moment when the author of the video was talking about the lack of hardware encoding in Kdenlive, the video was showing the 4 hardware enconder options! :-)
I guess I have to just say "no comment"! Although only 10 minutes long, the video was so hard to listen to and I just had to laugh when in the comments someone called the video a "masterpiece". On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 12:44 AM Andrea paz via Cin < [email protected]> wrote:
A video from last year, discussing the state of editing in Linux. There is no mention of CinGG. It is mentioned in a commentary, but they immediately reply that it is unusable because of the audio tracks being separate from the video tracks and the Title plugin not being up to par. Other notable shortcomings of the video are Krita (which has better color support than Gimp), Blender, Natron and especially the magnificent Inkscape (for titles and high-quality graphics). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltrot3s82Ys -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
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