About the new build 2019-05-27. - First of all thanks for the Tracer plugin; I have yet to test it, I'll let you know. - I noticed that in Arch's PKGBUILD there is twice the "libva" dependency and "libva-vdpau-driver" is missing (NOTE: there is also "ctags" missing without which the installation fails). - I don't really understand how vdpau/vaapi integration works: don't you have to use the string "CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau/vaapi" anymore when starting from terminal? Or do you still have to put it on if you want to activate the GPU? - For now TOP tells me percentages above 100% and the playback FPS are very low, see video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3na1r3vmwcnn6n/test.webm?dl=0
Andrea: thanks for testing! gg will look at this right away. He was working on Arch yesterday but we are not very familiar with Arch at all. Is "libva-vdpau-driver" absolutely needed for Arch? After your previous email, we had read about it and thought it was optional. Yes, you still need to use CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau. More later as we try to get this all going smoothly somehow, I hope. gg/phyllis On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 5:37 AM Andrea paz <[email protected]> wrote:
About the new build 2019-05-27.
- First of all thanks for the Tracer plugin; I have yet to test it, I'll let you know. - I noticed that in Arch's PKGBUILD there is twice the "libva" dependency and "libva-vdpau-driver" is missing (NOTE: there is also "ctags" missing without which the installation fails). - I don't really understand how vdpau/vaapi integration works: don't you have to use the string "CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau/vaapi" anymore when starting from terminal? Or do you still have to put it on if you want to activate the GPU? - For now TOP tells me percentages above 100% and the playback FPS are very low, see video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3na1r3vmwcnn6n/test.webm?dl=0 -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Many thanks for the rotation and resize feature in the Tracer plugin! Operating these features with the mouse is even better. Simply great! :-) Sam On 28.04.19 15:37, Phyllis Smith wrote:
Andrea: thanks for testing! gg will look at this right away. He was working on Arch yesterday but we are not very familiar with Arch at all. Is "libva-vdpau-driver" absolutely needed for Arch? After your previous email, we had read about it and thought it was optional.
Yes, you still need to use CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau. More later as we try to get this all going smoothly somehow, I hope. gg/phyllis
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 5:37 AM Andrea paz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
About the new build 2019-05-27.
- First of all thanks for the Tracer plugin; I have yet to test it, I'll let you know. - I noticed that in Arch's PKGBUILD there is twice the "libva" dependency and "libva-vdpau-driver" is missing (NOTE: there is also "ctags" missing without which the installation fails). - I don't really understand how vdpau/vaapi integration works: don't you have to use the string "CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau/vaapi" anymore when starting from terminal? Or do you still have to put it on if you want to activate the GPU? - For now TOP tells me percentages above 100% and the playback FPS are very low, see video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3na1r3vmwcnn6n/test.webm?dl=0 -- Cin mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
I also can not use hardware video rendering yet. But I have the opportunity to use CUDA, it can be seen on the example of the Blender: https://pic4a.ru/94/C08.png -- Ugin. 28.04.2019 14:36, Andrea paz пишет:
About the new build 2019-05-27.
- First of all thanks for the Tracer plugin; I have yet to test it, I'll let you know. - I noticed that in Arch's PKGBUILD there is twice the "libva" dependency and "libva-vdpau-driver" is missing (NOTE: there is also "ctags" missing without which the installation fails). - I don't really understand how vdpau/vaapi integration works: don't you have to use the string "CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau/vaapi" anymore when starting from terminal? Or do you still have to put it on if you want to activate the GPU? - For now TOP tells me percentages above 100% and the playback FPS are very low, see video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3na1r3vmwcnn6n/test.webm?dl=0
Ugin:
I also can not use hardware video rendering yet. But I have the opportunity to use CUDA, it can be seen on the example of the Blender:
Now that we have a better handle on Arch, today we are working on Ubuntu18 to see what the problem might be. The GPU speedup seemed to work for us. Perhaps the libva.so.1 versus so.2 is a problem.
Which graphics board do you use? This might help to determine what the problem is. Also, as Andrew wrote down in an email, with ffmpeg, only certain formats were optimized to take advantage of the GPU. gg/phyllis
Ugin: I also can not use hardware video rendering yet. But I have the
opportunity to use CUDA, it can be seen on the example of the Blender:
GG also asks what you see in the window from where you start Cin with CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau. Send that. And for the graphics board, that will be in the /var/log/Xorg.0.log which you can send to me privately if you want. gg/Phyllis
- Voluntarily I only installed libvdpau. The others are probably dependencies of VLC. I don't think it is needed. - The performance problems are perhaps due to the change of sources. This has many heavy plugins. However, I do not understand how to have more than 100% load on the CPU.
Andrea - Voluntarily I only installed libvdpau. The others are probably
dependencies of VLC. I don't think it is needed.
Thanks for corroborating this as we were unsure. - The performance problems are perhaps due to the change of sources.
This has many heavy plugins. However, I do not understand how to have more than 100% load on the CPU.
With "top" and a multi-core system it displays all of the CPUs added together as it uses multi-threads. So as you see below, on my laptop that has 16 CPU's when I do a higher quality render CinGG will use more than 14 of the CPUs so that I end up with 1,408 % CPU usage as it adds up the usage on all of the CPUs together. PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S *%CPU* %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 22873 root 20 0 8731032 1.9g 148520 S *1408 * 6.1 5:19.18 ci 1603 root 20 0 4893392 280296 104188 S 10.6 0.9 30:37.80 gnome-shell
Andrea: - I noticed that in Arch's PKGBUILD there is twice the "libva"
dependency and "libva-vdpau-driver" is missing (NOTE: there is also "ctags" missing without which the installation fails).
GG has now fixed (but not checked in yet) the twice libva and the ctags missing. He actually got the source code for libva-vdpau-driver to determine what it is and whether it is needed. From that he is pretty sure it is not needed for Cinelerra. It seems to be needed by applications that have vaapi implemented but do not have vdpau implemented so it bridged that.
- For now TOP tells me percentages above 100% and the playback FPS are very low, see video:
The above does not make sense to us. On the 25th you saw improvements in a lower CPU %. The only thing changed in the 27th checkin was addition of requirements for libva and libvdpau in the builds and improvements for Tracer. gg/phyllis
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