Very excited about Cinelerra, today I wanted to make a silent short video, as an example, to upload to the YouTube channel. I made a very meticulous desktop recording, with the goal that without saying a word, anyone can understand a simple process, such as changing the speed to a clip. I know this is as easy for you as scratching a ear. But for people who start they need someone to teach them. It is a question that several readers have asked me. As usual, in me, create a new project, and as is also usual for me when loading the files, I forgot to put the selector in "Create new resources only" I had it in "Replace current project" and when loading the 3 clips that I wanted to use for this video, this they have been loaded on three different tracks. Nothing happens, I pressed z and started again. I have uploaded the files, selecting the correct option. I made the montage when it was almost finished, after adjusting a clip, Cinelerra has blocked, it did not respond. I had not saved the job, and I had to close Cinelerra, kill the application from the system monitor. When I reopened Cinelerra I went quickly to file, load backup, and well, there was my project, more or less as I had it before the crash. So far so good... from here very bad I hastened to save in case the lock happened again... and here comes the catastrophe... when pressing s, no wizard was opened to save... I was surprised, I did not remember saving... I look in the timeline window bar and I freeze, this bad joke had already happened to me the first days in Cinelerra. There it said "Cinelerra: speedChange-2020-04-20_20.25.34.webm" For the second time Cinelerra has converted a video into an xml file. All my work thrown away, my lost time ... I have pondered, and I have thought, I am currently recommending an application that can make a user lose a video that is important to him. Because of an application that still carries defects that were very common in the late 90s, but that are inconceivable in the middle of 2020. Then all my illusion has turned into disappointment. I cannot recommend or spend time with an editor who can make you lose a video in such an absurd way. It is true that in my case, it was not an important video. But what if it had been...? I am not a computer scientist nor are I proficient with Photorec ... I am only an audiovisual technician. So after thinking it over and seeing the great risk of working with Cinelerra, for the moment I take a break. If GG ever decides to fix this, please let me know, maybe I'll regain the lost illusion and keep writing tutorials. So sorry. I have already deleted myself from the youtube channel and I am going to send the latest corrections of the Spanish translation to Phyllis and take a break. Thank you very much for your good predisposition and for your kindness always with me.
For the users who read the mailing list and may not have seen the Bug Tracker notes in #71, an EMERGENCY fix was checked into GIT. We are also disappointed that this bug has been in Cinelerra for years and has resulted in loss of his work. For more information on root cause, you can read about it on the end of #71. If anyone needs an early build with this fix in, let us know and we can generate a static tar. I understand the consternation of RafaMar and I hope he will continue to use Cinelerra-GG but understand why he may not. His work has been invaluable and his diagnosis of bugs has resulted in an improved product. We would regret the loss of his input as he has been able to find problems that the rest of us have not encountered. And there are still more bugs to be found. Phyllis Smith/Bill Morrow On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:53 PM Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux < [email protected]> wrote:
Very excited about Cinelerra, today I wanted to make a silent short video, as an example, to upload to the YouTube channel.
I made a very meticulous desktop recording, with the goal that without saying a word, anyone can understand a simple process, such as changing the speed to a clip. I know this is as easy for you as scratching a ear. But for people who start they need someone to teach them. It is a question that several readers have asked me.
As usual, in me, create a new project, and as is also usual for me when loading the files, I forgot to put the selector in "Create new resources only" I had it in "Replace current project" and when loading the 3 clips that I wanted to use for this video, this they have been loaded on three different tracks.
Nothing happens, I pressed z and started again. I have uploaded the files, selecting the correct option.
I made the montage when it was almost finished, after adjusting a clip, Cinelerra has blocked, it did not respond. I had not saved the job, and I had to close Cinelerra, kill the application from the system monitor.
When I reopened Cinelerra I went quickly to file, load backup, and well, there was my project, more or less as I had it before the crash.
So far so good... from here very bad
I hastened to save in case the lock happened again... and here comes the catastrophe... when pressing s, no wizard was opened to save... I was surprised, I did not remember saving... I look in the timeline window bar and I freeze, this bad joke had already happened to me the first days in Cinelerra. There it said "Cinelerra: speedChange-2020-04-20_20.25.34.webm"
For the second time Cinelerra has converted a video into an xml file.
All my work thrown away, my lost time ...
I have pondered, and I have thought, I am currently recommending an application that can make a user lose a video that is important to him. Because of an application that still carries defects that were very common in the late 90s, but that are inconceivable in the middle of 2020.
Then all my illusion has turned into disappointment. I cannot recommend or spend time with an editor who can make you lose a video in such an absurd way. It is true that in my case, it was not an important video. But what if it had been...? I am not a computer scientist nor are I proficient with Photorec ... I am only an audiovisual technician.
So after thinking it over and seeing the great risk of working with Cinelerra, for the moment I take a break. If GG ever decides to fix this, please let me know, maybe I'll regain the lost illusion and keep writing tutorials.
So sorry. I have already deleted myself from the youtube channel and I am going to send the latest corrections of the Spanish translation to Phyllis and take a break.
Thank you very much for your good predisposition and for your kindness always with me.
-- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
@RafaMar I am so sorry for that. IgorBeg Il 20/04/2020 22.52, Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux ha scritto:
Very excited about Cinelerra, today I wanted to make a silent short video, as an example, to upload to the YouTube channel.
I made a very meticulous desktop recording, with the goal that without saying a word, anyone can understand a simple process, such as changing the speed to a clip. I know this is as easy for you as scratching a ear. But for people who start they need someone to teach them. It is a question that several readers have asked me.
As usual, in me, create a new project, and as is also usual for me when loading the files, I forgot to put the selector in "Create new resources only" I had it in "Replace current project" and when loading the 3 clips that I wanted to use for this video, this they have been loaded on three different tracks.
Nothing happens, I pressed z and started again. I have uploaded the files, selecting the correct option.
I made the montage when it was almost finished, after adjusting a clip, Cinelerra has blocked, it did not respond. I had not saved the job, and I had to close Cinelerra, kill the application from the system monitor.
When I reopened Cinelerra I went quickly to file, load backup, and well, there was my project, more or less as I had it before the crash.
So far so good... from here very bad
I hastened to save in case the lock happened again... and here comes the catastrophe... when pressing s, no wizard was opened to save... I was surprised, I did not remember saving... I look in the timeline window bar and I freeze, this bad joke had already happened to me the first days in Cinelerra. There it said "Cinelerra: speedChange-2020-04-20_20.25.34.webm"
For the second time Cinelerra has converted a video into an xml file.
All my work thrown away, my lost time ...
I have pondered, and I have thought, I am currently recommending an application that can make a user lose a video that is important to him. Because of an application that still carries defects that were very common in the late 90s, but that are inconceivable in the middle of 2020.
Then all my illusion has turned into disappointment. I cannot recommend or spend time with an editor who can make you lose a video in such an absurd way. It is true that in my case, it was not an important video. But what if it had been...? I am not a computer scientist nor are I proficient with Photorec ... I am only an audiovisual technician.
So after thinking it over and seeing the great risk of working with Cinelerra, for the moment I take a break. If GG ever decides to fix this, please let me know, maybe I'll regain the lost illusion and keep writing tutorials.
So sorry. I have already deleted myself from the youtube channel and I am going to send the latest corrections of the Spanish translation to Phyllis and take a break.
Thank you very much for your good predisposition and for your kindness always with me.
- The first time I reported this problem... it went unnoticed. - The second time I made mention about the absurdity of mixing the project upload wizard with the file upload wizard, and asked for at least one warning when loading a new project, working on one that has not been saved, before of the load of the new one, I was answered, that this would be annoying for veteran users. - Now I have been surprised by the good reaction from solving something so serious, about overwriting a video as an xml. - I have seen that other veteran users also do not like the media upload wizard to the project and only use the "Create new resources only" option and even go so far as to say that it is very annoying that the default version is "Replace current project " - To me the media upload assistant seems surreal. It is cumbersome, useless and also dangerous. But this is still a personal assessment, less the dangerous option, this is real. - I am a person who keeps my word, if at least the "dangerous" point is solved I will continue writing, using, recommending cinelerra and of course notifying the errors... that as Phyllis told me, I have an easy time finding them. But this event makes me take a break because of my responsibility as a teacher and tutorial writer, being as I am, I would feel very bad if someone loses an important video and cannot retrieve it with an application that I have recommended. :'-( - If I had to rate Cinelerra and his team from 1 to 10 I would rate it 9.5, because of how good they are both. I have always been treated well and given more attention than I expected and incidents I have reported have been quickly resolved. El mar., 21 abr. 2020 a las 9:49, Igor BEGHETTO (<[email protected]>) escribió:
@RafaMar I am so sorry for that.
IgorBeg
Il 20/04/2020 22.52, Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux ha scritto:
Very excited about Cinelerra, today I wanted to make a silent short video, as an example, to upload to the YouTube channel.
I made a very meticulous desktop recording, with the goal that without saying a word, anyone can understand a simple process, such as changing the speed to a clip. I know this is as easy for you as scratching a ear. But for people who start they need someone to teach them. It is a question that several readers have asked me.
As usual, in me, create a new project, and as is also usual for me when loading the files, I forgot to put the selector in "Create new resources only" I had it in "Replace current project" and when loading the 3 clips that I wanted to use for this video, this they have been loaded on three different tracks.
Nothing happens, I pressed z and started again. I have uploaded the files, selecting the correct option.
I made the montage when it was almost finished, after adjusting a clip, Cinelerra has blocked, it did not respond. I had not saved the job, and I had to close Cinelerra, kill the application from the system monitor.
When I reopened Cinelerra I went quickly to file, load backup, and well, there was my project, more or less as I had it before the crash.
So far so good... from here very bad
I hastened to save in case the lock happened again... and here comes the catastrophe... when pressing s, no wizard was opened to save... I was surprised, I did not remember saving... I look in the timeline window bar and I freeze, this bad joke had already happened to me the first days in Cinelerra. There it said "Cinelerra: speedChange-2020-04-20_20.25.34.webm"
For the second time Cinelerra has converted a video into an xml file.
All my work thrown away, my lost time ...
I have pondered, and I have thought, I am currently recommending an application that can make a user lose a video that is important to him. Because of an application that still carries defects that were very common in the late 90s, but that are inconceivable in the middle of 2020.
Then all my illusion has turned into disappointment. I cannot recommend or spend time with an editor who can make you lose a video in such an absurd way. It is true that in my case, it was not an important video. But what if it had been...? I am not a computer scientist nor are I proficient with Photorec ... I am only an audiovisual technician.
So after thinking it over and seeing the great risk of working with Cinelerra, for the moment I take a break. If GG ever decides to fix this, please let me know, maybe I'll regain the lost illusion and keep writing tutorials.
So sorry. I have already deleted myself from the youtube channel and I am going to send the latest corrections of the Spanish translation to Phyllis and take a break.
Thank you very much for your good predisposition and for your kindness always with me.
-- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
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Haldun ALTAN -
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Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux