I always think that potentially destructive operations like 'save' or 'delete', when assigned to single keystrokes, can be dangerous. We are much less likely to accidentally touch of ctrl+s than we are to accidentally type s. I have had a number of occasions where i'm working on complex projects with nested edls and accidentally saved my error, requiring me to retrace my steps. Speaking of this, I would like to suggest incorporating a feature which has frequently saved me in audio work: automatic backups. Mixbus (and to my knowledge, Ardour), make periodic automatic snapshots of the active session tagged with date and time. That way, if I screw something up, I can recover a version from an hour or two previous without having to start over again. I don't know if this could be compatible with the Cinelerra model of not collecting session materials in a single folder, but it certainly has been a help in those few times I needed it! Thanks for all the work everyone is doing! Dan

On 09/08/2020 9:26 AM Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <> wrote:

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I think that a software must to do user's life more easy, if possible, because user will use the software. Then the question is (for all software): can Developers make the user's life more easy? If yes it is welcome.

Many softwares use "Ctrl+S" to save and they are not only for Office, I think: Gimp, Inkscape, Scribus, AutoCad, Blender, Solidworks, Audacity, Kdenlive, Shotcut, Adobe Premiere, and so on. It is a standard as meter is the base unit of length in the international System of Units (SI). ;-)

May be that a specific software don't use "Ctrl+S" to save but, what is the reason? (I would ask to the CCPNMR Developer)

Shorcuts are used to optimize your work and, if possible, shortcuts (and the position of the key on the keyboard) should be intuitive. For all NLEs there is a standard: J-K-L. For example some of my shortcuts are: ================================================= J - K - L (Play Normal reverse - Stop - Play Normal forward) if pressed twice J (or L), its Play Fast or Normal. I - O (InPoint - OutPoint) A - S (Jump backwards next cut - Jump forwards next cut)

To summarize the jumps backwards and forward: ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ -Jump backwards to the next cut | Alt+LeftArrow, 'A' -Jump forwards to the next cut | Alt+RightArrow, 'S' -Jump backwards to the next label | Ctrl+LeftArrow -Jump forwards to the next label | Ctrl+RightArrow -Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+LeftArrow -Jump forward... next Keyframes | Shift+RightArrow -Jump backwards to the next Autos | Ctrl+Shift+Alt+LeftArrow -Jump forward to the next Autos | Ctrl+Shift+Alt+RightArrow ----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ "Shift+K" and "Ctrl+Shift+K" no longer used. =================================================

Unfortunately, I don't think that my shortcuts can be implemented in Cinelerra-GG because it means to map completely the assignement of the shortcuts. And I understand that many users (old users?) don't want to change their assignement. I understand them (I no longer have the old "Move tracks Up/Dn" and theyr shortcuts ).

IgorBeg

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