Hi, I have been working on <https://github.com/benfmiller/audalign> today regarding the "audio alignment problem". My goal is now to provide the clips as intermediate format EDL for Cinelerra, so the problem can be resolved outside first. The current EDL format "looks like XML" but certainly is not (for example attribute tags miss quotes etc.). Is there any documentation available on the EDL format itself? -- Stefan
As far as I know the EDL format is not standard or compatible with any other software. On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:22 AM Stefan de Konink via Cin < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I have been working on <https://github.com/benfmiller/audalign> today regarding the "audio alignment problem". My goal is now to provide the clips as intermediate format EDL for Cinelerra, so the problem can be resolved outside first.
The current EDL format "looks like XML" but certainly is not (for example attribute tags miss quotes etc.).
Is there any documentation available on the EDL format itself?
-- Stefan -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
On Saturday, April 23, 2022 8:33:21 PM CEST, Phyllis Smith wrote:
As far as I know the EDL format is not standard or compatible with any other software.
This part I understand, but I want to generate that EDL format myself. So basically what is the minimum I would need to provide, in order to add a pair of aligned tracks. -- Stefan
On Saturday, April 23, 2022, Stefan de Konink via Cin < [email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, April 23, 2022 8:33:21 PM CEST, Phyllis Smith wrote:
As far as I know the EDL format is not standard or compatible with any other software.
This part I understand, but I want to generate that EDL format myself. So basically what is the minimum I would need to provide, in order to add a pair of aligned tracks.
there is file->dumps-> edl (dumps tons of params to stdout) but I guess you need something better.... try to look at edlsession* header and functions?
-- Stefan -- Cin mailing list [email protected] https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
There has nothing been any effort to document this so the only way to figure it out is to probably look at the code (unfortunately). On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 12:51 PM Stefan de Konink <[email protected]> wrote:
On Saturday, April 23, 2022 8:33:21 PM CEST, Phyllis Smith wrote:
As far as I know the EDL format is not standard or compatible with any other software.
This part I understand, but I want to generate that EDL format myself. So basically what is the minimum I would need to provide, in order to add a pair of aligned tracks.
-- Stefan
On Saturday, April 23, 2022 9:08:29 PM CEST, Phyllis Smith wrote:
There has nothing been any effort to document this so the only way to figure it out is to probably look at the code (unfortunately).
If we could serialise the EDL format in something less 'bad'. Is that something that is preferred? -- Stefan
If we could serialise the EDL format in something less 'bad'. Is that something that is preferred? To me that would be a good thing. Try coming up with something to test. Also: being able to implement the AAF format would allow exchange with other programs; supporting OpenEDL would be nice too.
On Thursday, April 28, 2022 8:42:16 AM CEST, Andrea paz wrote:
If we could serialise the EDL format in something less 'bad'. Is that something that is preferred? To me that would be a good thing. Try coming up with something to test. Also: being able to implement the AAF format would allow exchange with other programs; supporting OpenEDL would be nice too.
The main question is obviously: does the receiving format support everything that is currently stored. If yes: that could be a candidate. If no, and it still needs exceptions I would receive that as "so-so". If the alternative would be to have validating XML format... than that may be the conclusion. -- Stefan
On Thursday, April 28, 2022 8:52:23 AM CEST, Andrea paz wrote:
If the alternative would be to have validating XML format... than that may be the conclusion. Do you think it's feasible to transform CinGG's XML into a more standard format? I don't have the knowledge to do this. But if it's possible it seems like a good advancement for CinGG.
Format conversion is my professional work, but not audio/video related :) But I think the main gap is the lack of documentation of the current EDL format. So if there is a shortlist of formats that should be evaluated, we should make a gap between the current data Cinelerra needs and a more standardised format. Still we can project that format on the Cinelerra internals, Preventing that we should do a complete rewrite for another data model. The latter may be a clean up later. -- Stefan
I think the only one who knows the xml format of cinelerra is Adam Williams, the original creator (http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php). You can try contacting him, but he generally doesn't respond....
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