aw, we apparently missed more honest capture device
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MPPKZ55/ref=cm_cr_srp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8 4KVC00 from "V AV access" in reviews ==== A true YUY2, USB 3.0 capture card capable of 1080p 60fps! Reviewed in the United States on June 7, 2021 For the price, this thing is awesome. It's actually USB 3.0 (instead of just a fake blue connector) and is capable of delivering raw 1080p60 video for capture! I've been looking around for a good 1080p60 capture card for my Nintendo Switch, and this fits the bill quite nicely, as the loop-out keeps the gaming 'competitive' while the capture looks great. Pros: - Really captures at 1080p 60fps, and delivers sharp images (instead of blurrier 30fps ones you'll find on cheap USB 2.0 MJPEG-based capture cards). YUY2 (the video format) is chroma subsampled though, which means that really small text may have a bit of discoloration, but for games it's not really an issue. - Low latency capture (at least from what I can tell in OBS preview) - Loop out (yay) - Works with Linux as a simple V4L2 capture device - Sound is nicely in sync - Price (I got it for like ~$40 or so, and haven't found anything this good at this price point - heck, it outclasses my AverMedia Live Gamer Mini I bought used at $60) ==== aja and other stuff cost ... *much* more. https://www.aja.com/products/u-tap-hdmi 439$ https://www.amx.com/en/products/uvc1-4k even costlier, 800+! Anyway, in all cases cable (usb) might be limiting factor, too? I really hope this HAMA device actually just was plugged in wrong port or via wrong cable, otherwise I think it will be wise to replace it with something else (sadly cheap-end devices may change their guts without changing appearance, so ...russian roulette!)
https://www.avaccess.com/products/4kvc00/ it exist, just not (yet?) in Europe ... ср, 8 февр. 2023 г., 05:19 Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]>:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MPPKZ55/ref=cm_cr_srp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
4KVC00 from "V AV access"
in reviews
==== A true YUY2, USB 3.0 capture card capable of 1080p 60fps! Reviewed in the United States on June 7, 2021 For the price, this thing is awesome. It's actually USB 3.0 (instead of just a fake blue connector) and is capable of delivering raw 1080p60 video for capture! I've been looking around for a good 1080p60 capture card for my Nintendo Switch, and this fits the bill quite nicely, as the loop-out keeps the gaming 'competitive' while the capture looks great.
Pros: - Really captures at 1080p 60fps, and delivers sharp images (instead of blurrier 30fps ones you'll find on cheap USB 2.0 MJPEG-based capture cards). YUY2 (the video format) is chroma subsampled though, which means that really small text may have a bit of discoloration, but for games it's not really an issue. - Low latency capture (at least from what I can tell in OBS preview) - Loop out (yay) - Works with Linux as a simple V4L2 capture device - Sound is nicely in sync - Price (I got it for like ~$40 or so, and haven't found anything this good at this price point - heck, it outclasses my AverMedia Live Gamer Mini I bought used at $60) ====
aja and other stuff cost ... *much* more.
https://www.aja.com/products/u-tap-hdmi
439$
https://www.amx.com/en/products/uvc1-4k
even costlier, 800+!
Anyway, in all cases cable (usb) might be limiting factor, too?
I really hope this HAMA device actually just was plugged in wrong port or via wrong cable, otherwise I think it will be wise to replace it with something else (sadly cheap-end devices may change their guts without changing appearance, so ...russian roulette!)
Den 08.02.2023 03:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
https://www.avaccess.com/products/4kvc00/
it exist, just not (yet?) in Europe ...
4KVC00, interesting model worth to have a closer look at. And it seemingly is available or at least prices in Europe for €71.99 https://www.avaccess.com/eu/products/4kvc00/ If it has better cost/performance than other similar UVC v4L2 models, I don't know. Looking at its tech specs, it has color precision Deep Color 4K@60Hz: Up to 8bit Not really fair comparable with the "not so unexpensive" standalone SSD recorder (BMD Hyperdeck Shuttle 2 https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841023-REG/Blackmagic_Design_HYPERD_P... Color Precision 10-bit Video Sampling 4:2:2 And not to forget the 8-Bit vs 10-Bit Video Color Explained (thousands/banding vs millions): https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/series/the-filmmakers-handbook/8-bit-or-10-bit-...
ср, 8 февр. 2023 г., 05:19 Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]>:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MPPKZ55/ref=cm_cr_srp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
4KVC00 from "V AV access"
in reviews
==== A true YUY2, USB 3.0 capture card capable of 1080p 60fps! Reviewed in the United States on June 7, 2021 For the price, this thing is awesome. It's actually USB 3.0 (instead of just a fake blue connector) and is capable of delivering raw 1080p60 video for capture! I've been looking around for a good 1080p60 capture card for my Nintendo Switch, and this fits the bill quite nicely, as the loop-out keeps the gaming 'competitive' while the capture looks great.
Pros: - Really captures at 1080p 60fps, and delivers sharp images (instead of blurrier 30fps ones you'll find on cheap USB 2.0 MJPEG-based capture cards). YUY2 (the video format) is chroma subsampled though, which means that really small text may have a bit of discoloration, but for games it's not really an issue. - Low latency capture (at least from what I can tell in OBS preview) - Loop out (yay) - Works with Linux as a simple V4L2 capture device - Sound is nicely in sync - Price (I got it for like ~$40 or so, and haven't found anything this good at this price point - heck, it outclasses my AverMedia Live Gamer Mini I bought used at $60) ====
aja and other stuff cost ... *much* more.
https://www.aja.com/products/u-tap-hdmi
439$
https://www.amx.com/en/products/uvc1-4k
even costlier, 800+!
Anyway, in all cases cable (usb) might be limiting factor, too?
I really hope this HAMA device actually just was plugged in wrong port or via wrong cable, otherwise I think it will be wise to replace it with something else (sadly cheap-end devices may change their guts without changing appearance, so ...russian roulette!)
ср, 8 февр. 2023 г., 16:52 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
Den 08.02.2023 03:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
https://www.avaccess.com/products/4kvc00/
it exist, just not (yet?) in Europe ...
4KVC00, interesting model worth to have a closer look at. And it seemingly is available or at least prices in Europe for €71.99 https://www.avaccess.com/eu/products/4kvc00/
If it has better cost/performance than other similar UVC v4L2 models, I don't know. Looking at its tech specs, it has color precision Deep Color 4K@60Hz: Up to 8bit
Not really fair comparable with the "not so unexpensive" standalone SSD recorder (BMD Hyperdeck Shuttle 2
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841023-REG/Blackmagic_Design_HYPERD_P... Color Precision 10-bit Video Sampling 4:2:2
And not to forget the 8-Bit vs 10-Bit Video Color Explained (thousands/banding vs millions):
https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/series/the-filmmakers-handbook/8-bit-or-10-bit-...
yeah, with 19x diff in price you left to wonder if 10bit video path just *that* much expensive, or they charge because they can .... a bit of a look inside some of those devices, not really open down to fpga (?), but still you can look at firmware ... https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/an-open-source-hdmi-capture-card/ look at github link from there, it definitely list usb 3.0 yuv at usable framerates, but for usb 2.0 this slows down to exactly 5/10 fps ...
ср, 8 февр. 2023 г., 05:19 Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]>:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MPPKZ55/ref=cm_cr_srp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8
4KVC00 from "V AV access"
in reviews
==== A true YUY2, USB 3.0 capture card capable of 1080p 60fps! Reviewed in the United States on June 7, 2021 For the price, this thing is awesome. It's actually USB 3.0 (instead of just a fake blue connector) and is capable of delivering raw 1080p60 video for capture! I've been looking around for a good 1080p60 capture card for my Nintendo Switch, and this fits the bill quite nicely, as the loop-out keeps the gaming 'competitive' while the capture looks great.
Pros: - Really captures at 1080p 60fps, and delivers sharp images (instead of blurrier 30fps ones you'll find on cheap USB 2.0 MJPEG-based capture cards). YUY2 (the video format) is chroma subsampled though, which means that really small text may have a bit of discoloration, but for games it's not really an issue. - Low latency capture (at least from what I can tell in OBS preview) - Loop out (yay) - Works with Linux as a simple V4L2 capture device - Sound is nicely in sync - Price (I got it for like ~$40 or so, and haven't found anything this good at this price point - heck, it outclasses my AverMedia Live Gamer Mini I bought used at $60) ====
aja and other stuff cost ... *much* more.
https://www.aja.com/products/u-tap-hdmi
439$
https://www.amx.com/en/products/uvc1-4k
even costlier, 800+!
Anyway, in all cases cable (usb) might be limiting factor, too?
I really hope this HAMA device actually just was plugged in wrong port or via wrong cable, otherwise I think it will be wise to replace it with something else (sadly cheap-end devices may change their guts without changing appearance, so ...russian roulette!)
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