Re: [Cin] Clips/Nested clips/Xml - new feature - best thing since sliced bread!
This is great, thank you so much! One bug I've found: if the path to the imported EDL is long, it gets truncated. It would be nice to have th option of giving our own names to the nested EDLs, or if they would assume the name of the origin file (maybe they already do, but it's being truncated in my case). On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 10:25 AM Igor BEGHETTO <
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+1
Il 25/12/2019 6.38, Andrew Randrianasulu ha scritto:
В сообщении от Wednesday 25 December 2019 07:59:05 Phyllis Smith написал(а):
Wow, this is interesting feature, will try to play with it later
Thanks, Phyllis, for your tireless work on documenting/testing all those features, and GG for implementing them!
With the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is included with your project as Clips, Nested Clips, or Xml. For example, if you have a nested clip that originally had several plugins added to it before it was nested, you can edit those plugin parameter values. Previously to make any changes to these EDL clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip from scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and button click as described below by the ****.
In addition a couple of modifications related to this are noticeable to include the following: - in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the wording which was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media" - in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest to Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the Media folder
for example: 1) load some test media, mode replace project 2) highlight a selection and press create clip. add notes and press ok. clip is created 3) in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is present 4) select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu item Open EDL 5) timeline changes to just the clip content. 6) add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the [1] in the main menu bar. 7) timeline is restored to original media. 8) drag the clip from the resources folder to the timeline. The effect is visible.
**** - in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open EDL" for the highlighted clip. When you choose this option, the clip will be brought up on the timeline. *VERY IMPORTANT to note*, the previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this is programmer talk) so it is remembered and to get back to that you have to "pop the stack" (more programmer talk) by clicking on the button in the upper right hand corner of the timeline above where the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then 0 when back to your original timeline. You can go several levels deep so instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to tell you that you can get lost if you overdo it. Once the clip is open on the timeline, you can edit it however you want.
- in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip, the Nested clip will be located here - in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip is now called "EDL to clip" which results in the nested clip being reverted to a clip and back into the clip folder with only a name of "Clip #". The nested clip is also still in the Media folder. - in the Media folder, you now have the new option to "Open EDL" as described for clips above. But in this case when you Open EDL and edit the changes, those changes will take affect on any and all occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline.
I will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10 static tars that contain this and other mods in the Download / Documentation / File Storage at cinelerra-gg.org. Would be happy to make static tars for any other usual distro/version if you would like to test early.
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A GIT checkin was done about an hour ago to address some of the issues and some clean up. It works OK on fast computers but when GG created a Debian 9 build that was done on a slower computer there was a problem that he has to fix tomorrow. Workaround if testing Edit Edl-s "Nest to Media" is to not be using Vicons in the Resources window -- just use the text option instead. Bugs fixed will be described tomorrow when slower computer Vicons are working.
One bug I've found: if the path to the imported EDL is long, it gets truncated. It would be nice to have th option of giving our own names to the nested EDLs, or if they would assume the name of the origin file (maybe they already do, but it's being truncated in my case).
Fixes for the below have been used to build new static tars for Debian 9/10 and Mint 18 at: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-debian9-x86_64-s... https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-debian10-x86_64-... https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/cinelerra-5.1-mint18-x86_64-st... The fixes have not yet been checked into GIT for others to build. Just a reminder, although tested here as much as possible, there could still be new and old bugs lurking so use caution. Other reminder of demo location: https://streamable.com/3k6wl Just know that the *naming is solved now or for details*, read the list of changes and other things below: 1 - When nesting clips en masse, the timestamp is added followed by the name so that they are unique. The name in the case of an .xml file is without the directory paths. 2 - Truncation of the names should no longer be an issue. 3 - in the Media and Clip folder, there are now "Close EDL" options. This was added because if someone was just trying to figure out what "Open EDL" meant without having read any documentation, they would never guess to click on the # in the upper right corner of the timeline, and would think that they lost there original session. In addition in the case of where you have opened a EDL, and you no longer see that clip in the folder, the right mouse button where no media is highlighted will also display the Close EDL option. 4 - If you have nested an .xml file in the Clip folder so that now it is in the Media folder, when you unnest it via "EDL to Clip", it will now have a name of the next available Clip # but the comment contains the previous name so you can tell where it came from. 5 - If naming is confusing to you, you can easily change the name for these clips in either the Clip or Media folder because they are not real files at this point. To do so, highlight the clip name in Resources, click on Info and type in new name. 6 - Because it may be confusing and usually unnecessary, a previously unmentioned addition in all of this is "backup" updates. Automatically Cinelerra saves a backup when certain changes are made or you can always use the shortcut "b" to do one yourself, although keep in mind it will be overwritten whenever Cinelerra wants to do another backup. Now there is a shortcut for the shortcut "b" -- your fingers never have to even leave the mouse -- just click on the #. If # is at 0, it backs up to backup.xml, if at 1, it backs up to backup1.xml and so on ... up to backup9.xml. On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 8:34 PM Phyllis Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
A GIT checkin was done about an hour ago to address some of the issues and some clean up. It works OK on fast computers but when GG created a Debian 9 build that was done on a slower computer there was a problem that he has to fix tomorrow. Workaround if testing Edit Edl-s "Nest to Media" is to not be using Vicons in the Resources window -- just use the text option instead.
Bugs fixed will be described tomorrow when slower computer Vicons are working.
One bug I've found: if the path to the imported EDL is long, it gets truncated. It would be nice to have th option of giving our own names to the nested EDLs, or if they would assume the name of the origin file (maybe they already do, but it's being truncated in my case).
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