Hi, I miss you folks + Render questions
Hi Cin-GG folks! I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project.. On to my question: I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers. If I recall there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs. Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release? Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!! Best, Glen --
Glen, I was hoping to be able to figure out how to create the mov/mkv h264 combo in time to include in the AppImages I create tomorrow but no success. If someone else creates one overnight, I will include it. On Tue, Dec 30, 2025 at 4:15 PM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers. If I recall there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
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Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too. Sam Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers. If I recall there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly. Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ? If I recall
there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
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I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to /usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/ and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container.. On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
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Hi Andrew, and thanks very much! I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form? Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use! Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too! Best, Glen --- On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:17 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrew, and thanks very much!
I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form?
I usually used instructions from https://download.cinelerra-gg.org/files/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppIm... *I think* you can just put pre-existing 'bin' folder (from previously unpacked appimage) there and it will be picked up by bld_appimage.sh script. Phyllis used method with linuxdeploy, but I forgot where its upstream was. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09203.html
Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use!
Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
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Meh, seems like a lot of extra futzing and the extracted AppImage works just fine, I'll just adjust my launcher and work with it extracted for now. For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package anyway because my ISO's are assembled one Deb at a time and everything that goes in has to be in a Debian package format. Perhaps a better method in general is to extract your AppImages and make a hybrid package from the extracted AppImage. I'm aware that eLive also does 'proper' Debian packages but I try to avoid outside Repos.. Anyway I digress, my issue is solved for now and I'll wait and see if it makes it into future builds. Thanks so much again for the friendly response and the lightning-fast solution! Best, Glen --- On 2025-12-31 03:26, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:17 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrew, and thanks very much!
I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form?
I usually used instructions from
https://download.cinelerra-gg.org/files/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppIm...
*I think* you can just put pre-existing 'bin' folder (from previously unpacked appimage) there and it will be picked up by bld_appimage.sh script.
Phyllis used method with linuxdeploy, but I forgot where its upstream was.
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09203.html
Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use!
Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin:
Hi Cin-GG folks!
I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project..
On to my question:
I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond my needs.
Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container (or even both) in a future release?
Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the Cin-GG folks!!
Best, Glen
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Hi Glen
For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package
You can take mine deb package from https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases Or build a deb package yourself. It's easy. The debian folder should be copied from blds folder to cinelerra-5.1 I use the following settings in rules file: CONFFLAGS +="--with-opencv=sta,tar= http://my-internal.ip/opencv-20200306-f.tgz --enabl e-libsvtav1 --with-onevpl" Run debuild -us -uc to build Best regards, Andrey ср, 31 дек. 2025 г., 18:11 AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]>:
Meh, seems like a lot of extra futzing and the extracted AppImage works just fine, I'll just adjust my launcher and work with it extracted for now. For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package anyway because my ISO's are assembled one Deb at a time and everything that goes in has to be in a Debian package format. Perhaps a better method in general is to extract your AppImages and make a hybrid package from the extracted AppImage. I'm aware that eLive also does 'proper' Debian packages but I try to avoid outside Repos.. Anyway I digress, my issue is solved for now and I'll wait and see if it makes it into future builds.
Thanks so much again for the friendly response and the lightning-fast solution!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-31 03:26, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:17 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrew, and thanks very much!
I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form?
I usually used instructions from
https://download.cinelerra-gg.org/files/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppIm...
*I think* you can just put pre-existing 'bin' folder (from previously unpacked appimage) there and it will be picked up by bld_appimage.sh script.
Phyllis used method with linuxdeploy, but I forgot where its upstream was.
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09203.html
Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use!
Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so
there
may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin: > Hi Cin-GG folks! > > I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum > but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in > every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and > downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was > still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to > log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank > you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither > fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project.. > > On to my question: > > I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a > little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the > AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every > AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert > film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in > Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited > choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered > workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render > H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from > both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a > completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
> there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't > support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into > Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and > keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm > asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio > editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent > combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond > my needs. > > Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container > (or even both) in a future release? > > Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the > Cin-GG folks!! > > Best, Glen > _______________________________________________ Cin mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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Hi Andrey, Wow, great stuff! I had no idea that these packages existed, that's amazing! Thank you for your work on this! I'm a bit unorthodox in that for packages that aren't in the regular Debian or MX Repos I usually put the newest or most reliable version packages on the ISO and unless there are major updates or bugs I don't really continuously maintain those things between ISO releases. Just building specialized ISOs with my own utilities and customizations takes more spare time than I have (I know we are all in the same boat in that regard) so for now if I could use your builds for major updates and ISO releases that would certainly be less clumsy than wrapping AppImages. Thanks for your generosity! Best, Glen --- On 2025-12-31 10:31, Андрей Спицын via Cin wrote:
Hi Glen
For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package
You can take mine deb package from https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases Or build a deb package yourself. It's easy.
The debian folder should be copied from blds folder to cinelerra-5.1
I use the following settings in rules file:
CONFFLAGS +="--with-opencv=sta,tar=http://my-internal.ip/opencv-20200306-f.tgz --enabl e-libsvtav1 --with-onevpl"
Run debuild -us -uc to build
Best regards, Andrey
ср, 31 дек. 2025 г., 18:11 AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]>:
Meh, seems like a lot of extra futzing and the extracted AppImage works just fine, I'll just adjust my launcher and work with it extracted for now. For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package anyway because my ISO's are assembled one Deb at a time and everything that goes in has to be in a Debian package format. Perhaps a better method in general is to extract your AppImages and make a hybrid package from the extracted AppImage. I'm aware that eLive also does 'proper' Debian packages but I try to avoid outside Repos.. Anyway I digress, my issue is solved for now and I'll wait and see if it makes it into future builds.
Thanks so much again for the friendly response and the lightning-fast solution!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-31 03:26, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:17 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrew, and thanks very much!
I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form?
I usually used instructions from
https://download.cinelerra-gg.org/files/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppIm...
*I think* you can just put pre-existing 'bin' folder (from previously unpacked appimage) there and it will be picked up by bld_appimage.sh script.
Phyllis used method with linuxdeploy, but I forgot where its upstream was.
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09203.html
Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use!
Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are > currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so > there > may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this > will be > resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our > supporters and > developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I > can. > Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too. > > Sam > > Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin: > > Hi Cin-GG folks! > > > > I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum > > but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in > > every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and > > downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was > > still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to > > log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank > > you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither > > fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project.. > > > > On to my question: > > > > I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a > > little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the > > AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every > > AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert > > film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in > > Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited > > choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered > > workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render > > H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from > > both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a > > completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall > > there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't > > support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into > > Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and > > keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm > > asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio > > editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent > > combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond > > my needs. > > > > Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container > > (or even both) in a future release? > > > > Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the > > Cin-GG folks!! > > > > Best, Glen > > > _______________________________________________ > Cin mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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Glen, if you wait until I check into GIT, the h264.mkv that Andrew created and h264.mov adapted from faststart...qt, then Andrey automatically creates new Debian+more packages with those render formats included. On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:50 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrey,
Wow, great stuff! I had no idea that these packages existed, that's amazing! Thank you for your work on this! I'm a bit unorthodox in that for packages that aren't in the regular Debian or MX Repos I usually put the newest or most reliable version packages on the ISO and unless there are major updates or bugs I don't really continuously maintain those things between ISO releases. Just building specialized ISOs with my own utilities and customizations takes more spare time than I have (I know we are all in the same boat in that regard) so for now if I could use your builds for major updates and ISO releases that would certainly be less clumsy than wrapping AppImages.
Thanks for your generosity!
Best, Glen ---
On 2025-12-31 10:31, Андрей Спицын via Cin wrote:
Hi Glen
For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package
You can take mine deb package from https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases Or build a deb package yourself. It's easy.
The debian folder should be copied from blds folder to cinelerra-5.1
I use the following settings in rules file: CONFFLAGS +="--with-opencv=sta,tar= http://my-internal.ip/opencv-20200306-f.tgz --enabl e-libsvtav1 --with-onevpl"
Run debuild -us -uc to build
Best regards, Andrey
ср, 31 дек. 2025 г., 18:11 AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]>:
Meh, seems like a lot of extra futzing and the extracted AppImage works just fine, I'll just adjust my launcher and work with it extracted for now. For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package anyway because my ISO's are assembled one Deb at a time and everything that goes in has to be in a Debian package format. Perhaps a better method in general is to extract your AppImages and make a hybrid package from the extracted AppImage. I'm aware that eLive also does 'proper' Debian packages but I try to avoid outside Repos.. Anyway I digress, my issue is solved for now and I'll wait and see if it makes it into future builds.
Thanks so much again for the friendly response and the lightning-fast solution!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-31 03:26, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:17 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrew, and thanks very much!
I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form?
I usually used instructions from
https://download.cinelerra-gg.org/files/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppIm...
*I think* you can just put pre-existing 'bin' folder (from previously unpacked appimage) there and it will be picked up by bld_appimage.sh script.
Phyllis used method with linuxdeploy, but I forgot where its upstream was.
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09203.html
Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use!
Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so
there
may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin: > Hi Cin-GG folks! > > I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum > but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in > every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and > downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was > still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to > log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank > you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither > fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project.. > > On to my question: > > I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a > little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the > AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every > AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert > film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in > Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited > choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered > workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render > H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from > both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a > completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
> there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't > support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into > Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and > keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm > asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio > editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent > combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond > my needs. > > Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container > (or even both) in a future release? > > Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the > Cin-GG folks!! > > Best, Glen > _______________________________________________ Cin mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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Thank you Phyllis! I really appreciate these getting committed, much appreciated! I will indeed wait for the changes and updated builds! You've made my New Year and it hasn't even started yet! Best, Glen --- On 2025-12-31 11:48, Phyllis Smith via Cin wrote:
Glen, if you wait until I check into GIT, the h264.mkv that Andrew created and h264.mov adapted from faststart...qt, then Andrey automatically creates new Debian+more packages with those render formats included.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:50 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrey,
Wow, great stuff! I had no idea that these packages existed, that's amazing! Thank you for your work on this! I'm a bit unorthodox in that for packages that aren't in the regular Debian or MX Repos I usually put the newest or most reliable version packages on the ISO and unless there are major updates or bugs I don't really continuously maintain those things between ISO releases. Just building specialized ISOs with my own utilities and customizations takes more spare time than I have (I know we are all in the same boat in that regard) so for now if I could use your builds for major updates and ISO releases that would certainly be less clumsy than wrapping AppImages.
Thanks for your generosity!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-31 10:31, Андрей Спицын via Cin wrote:
Hi Glen
For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package
You can take mine deb package from https://github.com/einhander/cin-gg-packages/releases Or build a deb package yourself. It's easy.
The debian folder should be copied from blds folder to cinelerra-5.1
I use the following settings in rules file:
CONFFLAGS +="--with-opencv=sta,tar=http://my-internal.ip/opencv-20200306-f.tgz --enabl e-libsvtav1 --with-onevpl"
Run debuild -us -uc to build
Best regards, Andrey
ср, 31 дек. 2025 г., 18:11 AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]>: Meh, seems like a lot of extra futzing and the extracted AppImage works just fine, I'll just adjust my launcher and work with it extracted for now. For AV Linux I actually just take your AppImages and wrap them in a Debian Package anyway because my ISO's are assembled one Deb at a time and everything that goes in has to be in a Debian package format. Perhaps a better method in general is to extract your AppImages and make a hybrid package from the extracted AppImage. I'm aware that eLive also does 'proper' Debian packages but I try to avoid outside Repos.. Anyway I digress, my issue is solved for now and I'll wait and see if it makes it into future builds.
Thanks so much again for the friendly response and the lightning-fast solution!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-31 03:26, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 8:17 AM AVLinux via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Andrew, and thanks very much!
I'm working with the November 21 AppImage and I have extracted it and I assume in the AppImage the path would be /squashfs-root/usr/bin/ffmpeg/video/? It seems so because I copied your file there and by running Cin from the extracted AppImage I successfully rendered a working MKV file with H.264+WAV! Is there a command I can run to re-compress the AppImage and get it back to it's binary form?
I usually used instructions from
https://download.cinelerra-gg.org/files/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppIm...
*I think* you can just put pre-existing 'bin' folder (from previously unpacked appimage) there and it will be picked up by bld_appimage.sh script.
Phyllis used method with linuxdeploy, but I forgot where its upstream was.
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg09203.html
Thanks so much for your quick attention on this, I will wait for you guys to decide if this is a future addition, in the meantime I have a working solution to use!
Nice to hear from Phyllis and Sam too!
Best, Glen
---
On 2025-12-30 22:07, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
I just copied modified h264_vaapi.mkv as h264.mkv (attached ) to
/usr/share/cin/ffmpeg/video/
and it seems to work with s24/s32 as sound encoder for mkv container..
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:53 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 5:01 AM Sam via Cin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Glen, nice to hear from you. I'm sorry about the forum. We are currently in the process of completely revamping the website, so there may still be some issues with certain functions. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon. As for the technical question, some of our supporters and developers will certainly be able to answer that better than I can. Thank you for your loyalty to Cin-GG. Happy New Year to you too.
Sam
Am 31.12.25 um 00:15 schrieb AVLinux via Cin: > Hi Cin-GG folks! > > I'm Glen from AV Linux, I had gotten busy and away from the Cin forum > but I'm still a hardcore Cin-GG User and I still include Cin-GG in > every AV Linux release. I was quite concerned when the Cin forum and > downloads were offline for so long and I was hoping the project was > still going, now I see the downloads are back but I couldn't seem to > log into the forum so I thought I'd just join the mailing list. Thank > you for all you do to keep this project going, I know it is neither > fun nor easy much of the time to maintain a large open-source project.. > > On to my question: > > I had a read of the Cin manual about adding ffmpeg options and I'm a > little lost on how to do what I want, I also use and distribute the > AppImage version so I'd also like to avoid cracking open every > AppImage release to add some custom options. I do a lot of Concert > film restorations these days and I like to work with the Video in > Cin-GG and then import the Audio into Ardour so I have an unlimited > choice of specialized Audio Plugins and a more ideal Audio-centered > workflow. For my use case I really miss a MOV or MKV option to Render > H.264 Video + WAV Audio, this combination seems to be missing from > both the 'mov' and 'mkv' extension formats and H.264+WAV is a > completely valid spec for both MOV and MKV containers.
Mov presets live in ffmpeg/qt category, mostly.
Try faststart_h264.qt (modify to taste) + s16le.qt/s32le.qt ?
If I recall
> there is an h.264_vaapi option in mkv but my Video card doesn't > support it.. With this Workflow I can import the whole Video file into > Ardour and extract the Audio and then re-mux with the edited Audio and > keep the MP4 Video without re-encoding the Video so this is why I'm > asking an H.264 Render with an uncompressed WAV for further Audio > editing. In general for an archiving option H.264+WAV is a decent > combo as well so hopefully it would also be a useful addition beyond > my needs. > > Is it possible to get plain old H.264 + WAV in a MOV or MKV container > (or even both) in a future release? > > Thanks for considering and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all the > Cin-GG folks!! > > Best, Glen > _______________________________________________ Cin mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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