[Cin] actually, added few more formats to theme.C
Terje J. Hanssen
terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Wed Nov 11 18:12:44 CET 2020
I will just add that the HDV format consist of three versions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Specifications
HDV 720p
720p/60, 720p/30, 720p/24, 720p/50, 720p/25
HDV 1080i
1080i/30 (29.97), 1080i/25
HDV 1080p
1080p/30 (29.97), 1080p/24 (23.98), 1080p/25
At the same time I will also suggest to consistently use lower case "i"
for all interlaced HDV and HD formats like that on the SD formats.
Attached screen shots from the Set_Format_Preset menue.
Terje J. H
Den 01.11.2020 19:35, skrev Pierre autourduglobe via Cin:
> Yes it's clear
> HDV 1080i "Top field first"
> and DV "Bottom field first"
>
> In my case I can verify this with my old HDV camera HVR-Z1U, which can
> record and transfer either in HDV or DV (ntsc).
>
> Here is what mediainfo says about the material shot:
>
>
> An example of HDV material
>
> General
> ID : 255 (0xFF)
> Complete name : exemple.m2t
> Format : MPEG-TS
> Commercial name : HDV 1080i
> File size : 30.2 MiB
> Duration : 10s 878ms
> Start time : UTC 2016-01-11 11:15:03
> End time : UTC 2016-01-11 11:15:14
> Overall bit rate mode : Variable
> Overall bit rate : 23.2 Mbps
> Maximum Overall bit rate : 33.0 Mbps
> Encoded date : UTC 2016-01-11 11:15:03
>
> Video
> ID : 2064 (0x810)
> Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
> Format : MPEG Video
> Commercial name : HDV 1080i
> Format version : Version 2
> Format profile : Main at High 1440
> Format settings, BVOP : Yes
> Format settings, Matrix : Default
> Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=15
> Format settings, picture structure : Frame
> Codec ID : 2
> Duration : 10s 544ms
> Bit rate : 21.7 Mbps
> Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mbps
> Width : 1 440 pixels
> Height : 1 080 pixels
> Display aspect ratio : 16:9
> Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) fps
> Standard : Component
> Color space : YUV
> Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
> Bit depth : 8 bits
> Scan type : Interlaced
> Scan order : Top Field First
> Compression mode : Lossy
> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.466
> Stream size : 27.3 MiB (90%)
> Color primaries : BT.709
> Transfer characteristics : BT.709
> Matrix coefficients : BT.709
>
> Audio
> ID : 2068 (0x814)
> Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
> Format : MPEG Audio
> Format version : Version 1
> Format profile : Layer 2
> Codec ID : 3
> Duration : 10s 584ms
> Bit rate mode : Constant
> Bit rate : 384 Kbps
> Channel(s) : 2 channels
> Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
> Compression mode : Lossy
> Delay relative to video : -252ms
> Stream size : 496 KiB (2%)
>
> Menu
> ID : 129 (0x81)
> Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
> List : 2064 (0x810) (MPEG Video) /
> 2068 (0x814) (MPEG Audio) / 2069 (0x815) () / 2065 (0x811) ()
>
>
>
> An example of DV material (ntsc)
>
> General
> Complete name : exemple.avi
> Format : AVI
> Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
> Commercial name : DV
> File size : 446 MiB
> Duration : 2mn 3s
> Overall bit rate mode : Constant
> Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mbps
> Recorded date : 2015-10-08 15:18:53.000
>
> Video
> ID : 0
> Format : DV
> Codec ID : dvsd
> Codec ID/Hint : Sony
> Duration : 2mn 3s
> Bit rate mode : Constant
> Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
> Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
> Width : 720 pixels
> Height : 480 pixels
> Display aspect ratio : 16:9
> Frame rate mode : Constant
> Frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) fps
> Standard : NTSC
> Color space :
> /home/pierre/Bureau/MEDIAS_POUR_MONTAGE/AUTRES_sources/Pour_TESTS/Noir_de_camera/Noir_de_camera-HDV_HVR-Z1U_2016.01.11_11-15-03YUV
> Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
> Bit depth : 8 bits
> Scan type : Interlaced
> Scan order : Bottom Field First
> Compression mode : Lossy
> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
> Time code of first frame : 00:00:02:08
> Time code source : Subcode time code
> Stream size : 423 MiB (95%)
> Encoding settings : ae mode=manual / wb
> mode=pre-set / white balance=incandescent lamp / fcm=manual focus
>
> Audio
> ID : 1
> Format : PCM
> Format settings, Endianness : Little
> Format settings, Sign : Signed
> Codec ID : 1
> Duration : 2mn 3s
> Bit rate mode : Constant
> Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
> Channel(s) : 2 channels
> Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
> Bit depth : 16 bits
> Stream size : 22.6 MiB (5%)
> Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
> Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame)
> Interleave, preload duration : 33 ms
>
>
>
> Pierre
>
>
>
>
> Le 20-11-01 à 09 h 49, Terje J. Hanssen via Cin a écrit :
>> Sorry for my typo and confusion below, which should be
>>
>> To confirm DV "Bottom field first" and HDV 1080i "Top field
>> first" ..............
>> General
> Complete name :
> /home/pierre/Bureau/MEDIAS_POUR_MONTAGE/AUTRES_sources/Pour_TESTS/Color-bars_référence_de_HVR-Z1U/Color_bars_DV.avi
> Format : AVI
> Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
> Commercial name : DV
> Format profile : OpenDML
> File size : 2.12 GiB
> Duration : 10mn 1s
> Overall bit rate mode : Constant
> Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mbps
> Recorded date : 2015-10-05 11:09:56.000
>
> Video
> ID : 0
> Format : DV
> Codec ID : dvsd
> Codec ID/Hint : Sony
> Duration : 10mn 1s
> Bit rate mode : Constant
> Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
> Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
> Width : 720 pixels
> Height : 480 pixels
> Display aspect ratio : 16:9
> Frame rate mode : Constant
> Frame rate : 29.970 (29970/1000) fps
> Standard : NTSC
> Color space : YUV
> Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
> Bit depth : 8 bits
> Scan type : Interlaced
> Scan order : Bottom Field First
> Compression mode : Lossy
> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
> Time code of first frame : 00:09:19:19
> Time code source : Subcode time code
> Stream size : 2.02 GiB (95%)
>
> Audio
> ID : 1
> Format : PCM
> Format settings, Endianness : Little
> Format settings, Sign : Signed
> Codec ID : 1
> Duration : 10mn 1s
> Bit rate mode : Constant
> Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
> Channel(s) : 2 channels
> Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
> Bit depth : 16 bits
> Stream size : 110 MiB (5%)
> Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
> Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame)
> Interleave, preload duration : 33 ms
>
>>
>> Terje J. H
>>
>>
>>
>> Den 01.11.2020 15:29, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
>>> Due to my email address change, my messages to the Cin list seem to
>>> await moderator approval. In the meantime I'm sorry to post a copy
>>> to Pierre and Andrew here.
>>>
>>> To confirm DV "Top field first" and HDV 1080i "Bottom field first"
>>> and verify more details on both PAL formats, I've added output using
>>> ffprobe and mediainfo on real video clips I've recorded as below:
>>>
>>>
>>> PAL- DV 720x576i /25, 25 Mbps, 8-bit Y.U.V. 4:2:0
>>> ======= =========================================
>>> (recorded to Hi8 tape with a Sony TR-2000E Hi8 camcorder, and next
>>> converted the S-video to .DV file using a Datavideo DN-300, Analog
>>> to Digital converter & HDV / DV Hard Disk Recorder)
>>>
>>>
>>> > ffprobe dv01_07.dv
>>> ....................
>>> Input #0, dv, from 'dv01_07.dv':
>>> Metadata:
>>> timecode : 01:09:35:09
>>> Duration: 00:01:53.28, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 28800 kb/s
>>> Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv420p, 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR
>>> 4:3], 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
>>> Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
>>>
>>>
>>> > mediainfo dv01_07.dv
>>> ......................
>>> General
>>> Complete name : dv01_07.dv
>>> Format : DV
>>> File size : 389 MiB
>>> Duration : 1 min 53 s
>>> Overall bit rate mode : Constant
>>> Overall bit rate : 28.8 Mb/s
>>>
>>> Video
>>> Format : DV
>>> Duration : 1 min 53 s
>>> Bit rate mode : Constant
>>> Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s
>>> Width : 720 pixels
>>> Height : 576 pixels
>>> Display aspect ratio : 4:3
>>> Frame rate mode : Constant
>>> Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
>>> Standard : PAL
>>> Color space : YUV
>>> Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
>>> Bit depth : 8 bits
>>> Scan type : Interlaced
>>> Scan order : Bottom Field First
>>> Compression mode : Lossy
>>> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
>>> Time code of first frame : 01:09:35:09
>>> Time code source : Subcode time code
>>> Stream size : 330 MiB (85%)
>>>
>>> Audio
>>> ID : 0
>>> Format : PCM
>>> Format settings : Big / Signed
>>> Duration : 1 min 53 s
>>> Bit rate mode : Constant
>>> Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s
>>> Channel(s) : 2 channels
>>> Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
>>> Bit depth : 16 bits
>>> Stream size : 20.7 MiB (5%)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PAL - HDV 1440x1080i/ 25, 25 Mbps, 8-bit Y.U.V. 4:2:0
>>> =====================================================
>>> (recorded to miniHDV tape with a Sony HDR-FX7E HDV camcorder, and
>>> next to to .M2T file using a Datavideo DN-300 HDV / DV Hard Disk
>>> Recorder)
>>>
>>>
>>> > ffprobe hdv01_03.m2t
>>> .....................
>>> Input #0, mpegts, from 'hdv01_03.m2t':
>>> Duration: 00:10:58.22, start: 1966.896000, bitrate: 26099 kb/s
>>> Program 100
>>> Stream #0:0[0x810]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] /
>>> 0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR
>>> 16:9], 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
>>> Stream #0:1[0x814]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000
>>> Hz, stereo, s16p, 384 kb/s
>>> Stream #0:2[0x815]: Unknown: none ([160][0][0][0] / 0x00A0)
>>> Stream #0:3[0x811]: Unknown: none ([161][0][0][0] / 0x00A1)
>>>
>>>
>>> > mediainfo hdv01_03.m2t
>>> ........................
>>> General
>>> ID : 255 (0xFF)
>>> Complete name : hdv01_03.m2t
>>> Format : MPEG-TS
>>> Commercial name : HDV 1080i
>>> File size : 2.00 GiB
>>> Duration : 10 min 57 s
>>> Start time : UTC 2007-02-04 13:10:17
>>> End time : UTC 2007-02-08 11:27:00
>>> Overall bit rate mode : Variable
>>> Overall bit rate : 26.1 Mb/s
>>> Maximum Overall bit rate : 33.0 Mb/s
>>> Encoded date : UTC 2007-02-04 13:10:17
>>>
>>> Video
>>> ID : 2064 (0x810)
>>> Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
>>> Format : MPEG Video
>>> Commercial name : HDV 1080i
>>> Format version : Version 2
>>> Format profile : Main at High 1440
>>> Format settings : CustomMatrix / BVOP
>>> Format settings, BVOP : Yes
>>> Format settings, Matrix : Custom
>>> Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
>>> Format settings, picture structure : Frame
>>> Codec ID : 2
>>> Duration : 10 min 57 s
>>> Bit rate mode : Constant
>>> Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s
>>> Maximum bit rate : 25.0 Mb/s
>>> Width : 1 440 pixels
>>> Height : 1 080 pixels
>>> Display aspect ratio : 16:9
>>> Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
>>> Standard : Component
>>> Color space : YUV
>>> Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
>>> Bit depth : 8 bits
>>> Scan type : Interlaced
>>> Scan order : Top Field First
>>> Compression mode : Lossy
>>> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.628
>>> Stream size : 1.87 GiB (94%)
>>> Color primaries : BT.709
>>> Transfer characteristics : BT.709
>>> Matrix coefficients : BT.709
>>>
>>> Audio
>>> ID : 2068 (0x814)
>>> Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
>>> Format : MPEG Audio
>>> Format version : Version 1
>>> Format profile : Layer 2
>>> Codec ID : 3
>>> Duration : 10 min 57 s
>>> Bit rate mode : Constant
>>> Bit rate : 384 kb/s
>>> Channel(s) : 2 channels
>>> Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
>>> Frame rate : 41.667 FPS (1152 SPF)
>>> Compression mode : Lossy
>>> Delay relative to video : -192 ms
>>> Stream size : 30.1 MiB (1%)
>>>
>>> Menu
>>> ID : 129 (0x81)
>>> Menu ID : 100 (0x64)
>>> List : 2064 (0x810) (MPEG Video)
>>> / 2068 (0x814) (MPEG Audio) / 2069 (0x815) () / 2065 (0x811) ()
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> Terje J. H
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