[Cin] Is SD and HD 422 Video Capture obtainable with V4L(2)?
Terje J. Hanssen
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Sun Dec 19 02:21:28 CET 2021
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> ===============
>
> I-frame-only 50 Megabit MPEG-2 or
> comparable
> DV50 in
> 4:2:2 as
> high-end, "visually lossless" intermediate
> format for
> archival and
> suited for editing?
>
> -----------------
>
> Regarding DV50, FFMpeg has a friendly
> "target
> dv50"
> support
> (similar as "target DVD"). So to get a
> first
> look on a
> DV50 test
> file, I simply transcoded 422/10bit
> Video and PCM
> audio from a MOV
> file (ProRes 422HQ) to a raw DV50
> (422/8bit) file:
>
> ffmpeg -i SD-MOV.mov -target pal-dv50
> SD-DV50.dv
>
> [......]
>
>
> 205M SD-DV50.dv (ffmpeg
> re-encoded/remuxed)
> AV-info:
>
> avprobe SD-DV50.dv
> avprobe version 12.3, Copyright (c)
> 2007-2018 the
> Libav developers
> built on Mar 26 2018 12:39 with gcc
> 11 (SUSE
> Linux)
> [dv @ 0x55cdddb96440] Estimating
> duration from
> bitrate, this may
> be inaccurate
> Input #0, dv, from 'SD-DV50.dv':
> Metadata:
> timecode : 00:00:00:00
> Duration: 00:00:29.80, start:
> 0.000000, bitrate:
> 57600 kb/s
> Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv422p,
> 720x576 [SAR
> 16:15 DAR
> 4:3], 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25
> tbn, 25 tbc
> Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000
> Hz, stereo,
> s16, 1536 kb/s
> Stream #0:2: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000
> Hz, stereo,
> s16, 1536 kb/s
> # avprobe output
>
> ===================
>
> As seen above, it looks like ffmpeg
> produced wrong
> meta data for
> the DV50 video bitrate (25 Mb/s=DV25),
> while
> the total
> bitrate
> 57.6 Mb/s is correct. (Also similar
> was seen with
> ffprobe and
> Mediainfo).
>
> My VLC player or Gnome movieplayer did not
> playback
> the DV50 file,
> while ffplay did (as usual without
> audio?).
>
> Cin-GG miss a DV50 preset among format
> setting.
> However DV50 else
> loades preliminary OK in Cin-GG (via
> ffmpeg).
>
>
> I'll look at dv50 output preset..
>
> Fine
>
> ===============
>
> I tried also to transcode and remux 422 Video and PCM
> Audio to a
> 50 Mbps MPEG-2 I-frame only program stream.
>
> 1) MPG From MOV (ProRes 422HQ)
> ------------------------------
>
> ffmpeg -i SD-MOV.mov -c:v mpeg2video -bf 2 -b:v 50M
> -maxrate 50M
> -minrate 50M -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2I-50.mpg
> [....]
> Stream mapping:
> Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (prores (native) ->
> mpeg2video (native))
> Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (pcm_s24le (native) -> pcm_s16be
> (native))
> Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
> [mpeg2video @ 0x560ffd164ec0] Automatically
> choosing VBV
> buffer
> size of 746 kbyte
> [vob @ 0x560ffd14d180] At most 8 channels allowed
> for LPCM
> streams.
> Could not write header for output file #0
> (incorrect codec
> parameters ?): Invalid argument
> Error initializing output stream 0:1 --
>
> ***This failed because PreRes Audio uses 16
> channels:***
>
>
> yeah... interesting limitation.. and interesting number of
> channels..
>
>
> ffprobe SD-MOV.mov 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep
> Stream.*Audio
> Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: pcm_s24le (lpcm /
> 0x6D63706C),
> 48000
> Hz, 16 channels, s32 (24 bit), 18432 kb/s (default)
>
>
> 2) MPG from DV50
> ----------------
> ffmpeg -i SD-DV50.dv -c:v mpeg2video -bf 2 -b:v 50M
> -maxrate 50M
> -minrate 50M -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2I-50.mpg
>
> du -sh *
> 205M SD-DV50.dv
> 284M SD-MOV.mov
> 186M SD-MP2I-50.mpg
>
> avprobe SD-MP2I-50.mpg
> Input #0, mpeg, from 'SD-MP2I-50.mpg':
> Duration: 00:00:29.77, start: 0.540000, bitrate:
> 52167 kb/s
> Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (4:2:2),
> yuv422p(tv,
> progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 50000
> kb/s, 25
> fps, 25
> tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
> Stream #0:1[0xa0]: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, 2
> channels, s16,
> 1536 kb/s
>
> ***** The SD-MP2I-50.mpg file size is here 90% of DV50
> ********
>
> The SD-MP2I-50.mpg playback ok with VLC, Gnome
> movieplayer,
> ffplay, and loads and playback in Cin-GG
> The audio volume seems low (weak), but can probably be
> adjusted
> higher with ffmpeg
>
>
> well, but I missed keyframe parameter? bitrate is big
> but I
> think without special param ffmpeg still will not make
> all-I
> mpeg2 stream..?
>
>
>
> The first Video part of my ffmpeg script was based on this
> standard FFmpeg Howto for
> "MPEG-2 I-frame only Highest Quality Encoding", which didn't
> include a keyframe parameter !?
> https://brunosan.eu/images/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_MPEG-2_I-frame_only_in_Highest_Quality
> <https://brunosan.eu/images/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_MPEG-2_I-frame_only_in_Highest_Quality>
>
> <https://brunosan.eu/images/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_MPEG-2_I-frame_only_in_Highest_Quality
> <https://brunosan.eu/images/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_MPEG-2_I-frame_only_in_Highest_Quality>>
>
> ffmpeg -i <input_file> -vcodec mpeg2video -pix_fmt yuv422p
> -qscale
> 1 -qmin 1 -intra -an output.m2v
>
>
> you missed
>
> -intra?
>
>
> Thanks for reviewing. "-intra" should definitely be there, and I
> know I used it before editing and troubleshooting the audiopart,
> removing -an. Cleaned up and added also some other parameters
> -q:v 1 -qmin 1 -intra
>
>
> 3) MP2I50 from DV50:
> ---------------------
> ffmpeg -i SD-DV50.dv -c:v mpeg2video -q:v 1 -qmin 1 -intra -bf 2
> -b:v 50M -maxrate 50M -minrate 50M -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2I50.mpg
> [...]
> Input #0, dv, from 'SD-DV50.dv':
> Metadata:
> timecode : 00:00:00:00
> Duration: 00:00:29.80, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 57600 kb/s
> Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv422p, 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR
> 4:3], 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
> Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
> Stream #0:2: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
> [... a lot of vob buffer messages scrolling ....]
> [vob @ 0x564dbf6a0680] packet too large, ignoring buffer limits to
> mux it
> [vob @ 0x564dbf6a0680] buffer underflow st=1 bufi=7204 size=7680
> frame= 745 fps=460 q=1.0 Lsize= 189584kB time=00:00:29.76
> bitrate=52186.6kbits/s speed=18.4x
> video:181698kB audio:5588kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global
> headers:0kB muxing overhead: 1.227127%
>
> avprobe SD-MP2I50.mpg
> avprobe version 12.3, Copyright (c) 2007-2018 the Libav developers
> built on Mar 26 2018 12:39 with gcc 7 (SUSE Linux)
> Input #0, mpeg, from 'SD-MP2I50.mpg':
> Duration: 00:00:29.80, start: 0.540000, bitrate: 52116 kb/s
> Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (4:2:2), yuv422p(tv,
> progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 50000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25
> tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
> Stream #0:1[0xa0]: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16,
> 1536 kb/s
>
> ================
>
> (Re)tested also with
>
> 4) No intra (-intra)
> ffmpeg -i SD-DV50.dv -c:v mpeg2video -bf 2 -b:v 50M -maxrate 50M
> -minrate 50M -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2-50.mpg
>
> 5) Without specified Video bitrate (-b:v)
> ffmpeg -i SD-DV50.dv -c:v mpeg2video -q:v 1 -qmin 1 -intra -bf 2
> -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2I-.mpg
>
> 6) Video only - no Audio (-an):
> ffmpeg -i SD-DV50.dv -vcodec mpeg2video -q:v 1 -qmin 1 -intra -an
> SD-MP2I50-an.m2v
>
> -----------------
>
> du -sh *
> 284M SD-MOV.mov
> 205M SD-DV50.dv
> 186M SD-MP2I50.mpg (3)
> 186M SD-MP2-50.mpg (4)
> 153M SD-MP2I-.mpg (5)
> 146M SD-MP2I50-an.m2v (6)
>
> As seen, no size difference between -intra (3) and without intra
> flag specified (4) above:
> 186/205 = 90% size of the input SD-DV50.dv
>
> I would expect this due to high bitrate and some more effectiv
> video compression for MPEG-2 over DV50.
> While the consumer DV25/4:2:0 pal uses 5:1 intra compression, the
> pro(sumer) DV50/4:2:2 uses lower 3.3:1.
>
> -------------
>
> 7) Another, equivalent SD MPEG-2/ 422P at ML option to setup for
> Cin-GG/ FFMpeg preset could be:
>
> D10 aka Sony IMX50 Encoding - a standard definition professional
> video recording format. Uses intraframe
> compression, 4:2:2 color subsampling and user-selectable constant
> video data rate of 30, 40 or 50 Mbit/s.
>
> 422P at ML 720 × 576 25 FPS 4:2:2 Sampling 50 Mbits/s
> Sony IMX50 (I only), Broadcast Contribution (I&P only)
>
> The Howto contains both a short and a long script version.
>
> ----------------
>
>
> ffmpeg changes cmd line and API quickly.. (
>
> try "-g 1" and check keyframes with some linevlike those?
>
> https://snippets.bentasker.co.uk/page-1707191206-Get-Video-Keyframe-Interval-(ffprobe)-BASH.html
> <https://snippets.bentasker.co.uk/page-1707191206-Get-Video-Keyframe-Interval-(ffprobe)-BASH.html>
> <https://snippets.bentasker.co.uk/page-1707191206-Get-Video-Keyframe-Interval-(ffprobe)-BASH.html
> <https://snippets.bentasker.co.uk/page-1707191206-Get-Video-Keyframe-Interval-(ffprobe)-BASH.html>>
>
>
> I tried to copy and paste some line from the manual url, but
> If you possibly can setup an exact FF syntax to run here, I can do
> it ;)
>
>
> attached copy of script Phyllis send to me back in 2019
>
Sorry I'm not skilled with sed scripts. "Somewhere" I would expect my
encoded file name "SD-MP2I50.mpg" should be put in to be read and
analyzed with ffprobe? And what about the first mentioned "-g 1" ?
What are we really searching for or verify in this I-frame only encoded
MPEG-2 video file ?
And isn't keyframes another (previous?) name for Intra-frames?
>
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> I dropped -pix_fmt yuv422p when I saw it was detected and
> automatic from the input file.
>
>
> So I added the second PCM Audio part (similar I did for SD-DV)
> according to 1. Answer at
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48265448/mpeg-2-program-stream-w-pcm-audio
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48265448/mpeg-2-program-stream-w-pcm-audio>
>
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48265448/mpeg-2-program-stream-w-pcm-audio
> <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48265448/mpeg-2-program-stream-w-pcm-audio>>
>
> FFmpeg only supports muxing 16 bit PCM in a MPEG2 PS. Use
>
> ffmpeg -i "input.mov" \
> -c:v mpeg2video -pix_fmt yuv422p -bf 2 -b:v 50M -maxrate 50M
> -minrate 50M \
> -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 \
> -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob "output.mpg"
>
> The -f vob is needed to force a MPEG-2 PS, else ffmpeg
> will select
> MPEG-1 Systems muxer.
>
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