[Cin] two more english tips?

Thu Jan 21 20:55:31 CET 2021

It would be nice to add these lines in the tips, since this is a great
rarity and people should know it ... so they don't get frustrated with this
wizard.

I keep thinking, is it possible to add a button (Help) that opens a short
pdf about the use of this tool?
I could make this pdf, with very little text and explicit images on how to
use it. It really is very unintuitive, but I think that any user with a few
lines is going to take advantage of this tool.

The playhead thing is something very strange and that people should know
... this should be an option in the wizard interface, it does not have to
be hidden, such as the ones of Save EDL and that of the projects if they
coincide or not. Something like that:

□ Render from the position of the play cursor (or cursor of insertion)

Can you do something like that, is it easy? Would Phyllis allow it?
This simple option would stop this feature from being something that many
users see as a wizard bug. And former users would simply have to enable
this option.

If I have to extract parts of a video I use Avidemux, because of how simple
and fast it is, but I liked the selections to extract parts of a project in
a batch, it is a shame to have to make an xml for each fragment when You
could add the option I mentioned in another email, or create new render
marks, which would go in pairs, label render start, label render finish,
and be able to define the desired fragments with these labels, or as I
indicated with the points of input and output and the time code in the
render. Although I understand that this could be too much work for you.

These labels that I quote usually carry these icons:
▶ = for the beginning of the render, ◀ = to indicate where it ends.
(I hope your unicode setup shows the correct characters) But just in case I
make an image.

[image: 42.png]

In the event that only a beginning mark is indicated, the render will be
made from this mark at the end, if only the final mark is indicated, then
from the beginning of the project to this mark.

These marks may or may not be visible from the "Show Overlays" window as
"Render Marks" and in the batch render window, an option:
□ Use render marks
    ▶  ◀ (insert render labels).
A new section could be added to the edit menu:
Labels ...          Insert generic label            l
                        Label of Render - Start
                        Label of Render - End

In the Render window under the option to use render marks there could be
icons to insert these labels. ▶  ◀

Maybe it is too much work to do something like that, I wish I had
programming knowledge and could help.

For me, the important thing now would be the option cited for the position
of the cursor and a help button that opens a short pdf that would be
attached to the Cinelerra installation files and can be in English if there
is no translation or in local language if someone translates them. I could
do the English, Spanish and French (Although both in English and French
someone native should review them). I repeat that it would take very little
text.

Greetings Andrew and thank you very much for your excellent work.

El jue, 21 ene 2021 a las 15:52, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<
cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>) escribió:

> Because this part of Cinelerra(GG) also not intuitive for
> modern users - what about adding two more lines in tips.en?
>
> diff --git a/cinelerra-5.1/tips/tips.en b/cinelerra-5.1/tips/tips.en
> index 781df953..8b2dc4fc 100644
> --- a/cinelerra-5.1/tips/tips.en
> +++ b/cinelerra-5.1/tips/tips.en
> @@ -26,6 +26,12 @@ Use the +/- keys in the Compositor window to zoom in
> and out.
>  Pressing Alt while clicking in the cropping window causes translation of
>  all 4 points.
>
> +Batch jobs in batchrender respect their saved playhead position, so set
> it at
> +very beginning if you want whole project to be rendered.
> +
> +You can batchrender only region of project by defining selection with
> mouse
> +highlight or setting in/out points before saving it as EDL (Shift-S).
> +
>  Pressing Tab over a track toggles the Record status.
>  Pressing Shift-Tab over a track toggles the Record status of all the
> other tracks.
>
>
> If you think wording is OK - may be active translators (incl. me) should
> add the same
> to their tip files.
>
> (I tried this procedure with mouse highlight and in-out points by saving
> same proj  four times
> with different selection and then making batch out of them)
>
> Project files also attached.
> media file should be  at
> https://cloud.mail.ru/public/KKY8/o86j62p2z
>
> (quite a captivity propaganda translated  to russian,
> from my point of life, but quick enough for testing something)
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