[Cin] Updated CinGG release for downloading the AppImage

Andrew Randrianasulu randrianasulu at gmail.com
Sat Nov 6 17:15:10 CET 2021


On Saturday, November 6, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Den 06.11.2021 00:29, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>> On Saturday, November 6, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <
>> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org <mailto:cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>> wrote:
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>>     Den 05.11.2021 11:55, skrev Andrea paz:
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>>         @Terje
>>         If I understand correctly, you used only the h264.mp4 and h265.mp4
>>         presets, changing the "Pixels" option from "420 8-bit" to "422
>>         10-bit"
>>         each time. Also, try using the 8, 10 and 12-bit h265 presets;
>>         they are
>>         Andrew's new ones that work for me in the non-multibit version.
>>         I've tried non-multibit and I can render h264.mp4 at 8 and
>>         10-bit and
>>         h265.mp4 at 8 and 10-bit. In short, in my case the non-multibit
>>         version always behaves as a sum of multibit and non-multibit.
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>>     @Andrea and All
>>     I had a look into the Manual: Modifying FFmpeg Format Options
>>     inside CINELERRA-GG
>>     Figure 9.2: FFmpeg wrench, video preset, view and format options
>>     https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Modifyi
>> ng_FFmpeg_Format_Opt.html
>>     <https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Modify
>> ing_FFmpeg_Format_Opt.html>
>>
>>     and tried to indicate cin version and parameters in my test file
>>     names (no warranty the syntax is quite consistent), i.e
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>>     hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv422p10le.mp4
>>     File > Render | File format: FFMPEG mp4 | Video Wrench
>>     > Video Preset | Compression: h264-10bit.mp4 | Pixels: yuv422p10le
>>
>>     While this rendered OK on one of my workstation, another
>>     installation wouldn't render at all with the following
>>     Message log:
>>     virtual void Render::handle close event(int):
>>      Create new at labels checked, but no labels
>>     (or other Failure)
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>>
>> guess in this case you (accidently?) selected rendering option making new
>> file at each label (3rd radiobutton out of four) instead of rendering whole
>> file/ in-out region....
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> @Andrew
> Thx, that's right - I don't know why or how the Render "Make new file box"
> was checked on my MSI workstation.
> Unchecked it and the above file rendered ok.
>
> A minor visual notice, why differ the Render button geometries between my
> two workstations with the same, latest Cin-GG appimage installation?
> See the attached screenshot,  the top Render window with square and round
> buttons vs the bottom Render window with romb buttons.


guess: because different Cin instances used different themes?


> One render option combination that Cin-gg regular reported error message
> (invalid or not supported), was as shown on the screenshot
> h265-10bit.mp4 compression and yuv422p10le pixels
> Is this correct?


well, it was motivation for me to write my patches, but apparently not all
systems behave like this...

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> @Andrea
> I succeeded to rendered further combinations and cleaned up my file name
> syntax as follows:
>
> du -sh hd01.mov hd01*app*.mp4
>
> 1,7G    hd01.mov (input 10bit ProRes HQ file)
> --------------------------
> 70M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4
> 72M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv420p.mp4
> 80M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv422p10le.mp4
> 82M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h264_yuv422p.mp4
> 0    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4 (failed)
> 26M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p.mp4
> 26M    hd01_cin_appimage_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p.mp4
> --------------------------
> 26M    hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-10bit_yuv422p10le.mp4
> 26M    hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265-12bit_yuv422p12le.mp4
> 26M    hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p10le.mp4
> 26M    hd01_cin-multi_appimage_ffmpeg_h265_yuv422p.mp4


but how they look visually? I found it a bit strange how h264 compresses to
different sizes yet h265 is all the same.. you tried with rgb(a) - float
project setting in all cases, yes?

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> @"Manual"
> I think it could be useful if it is possible to add some overview table(s)
> i.e in the manual section FFmpeg Format Options inside CINELERRA-GG:
> That is, valid and Standard Profiles with Compression and Pixels
> properties for actual purposes and media, that works for Cin-GG and Cin-GG
> multibit respectively?
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> Terje J. H
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