[Cin] HDV manual section need some work

Andrew Randrianasulu randrianasulu at gmail.com
Sun Nov 6 02:14:13 CET 2022


вс, 6 нояб. 2022 г., 03:30 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:

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> Den 06.11.2022 00:56, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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> вс, 6 нояб. 2022 г., 02:06 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>> Den 05.11.2022 23:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>> вс, 6 нояб. 2022 г., 01:05 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>>> Den 05.11.2022 13:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>>> сб, 5 нояб. 2022 г., 15:39 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>>>> Den 03.11.2022 22:13, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>>>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 21:28 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>>>>> Den 03.11.2022 16:17, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>>>>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 17:52 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>>>>>> Den 03.11.2022 01:42, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin:
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>>>>>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 03:34 Andrew Randrianasulu <
>>>>>> randrianasulu at gmail.com>:
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>>>>>>> чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 03:14 Andrew Randrianasulu <
>>>>>>> randrianasulu at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think we can add some clarification
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> HDV on a Blu-ray Disc Without Re-encoding
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An MTS file is a video file saved in the high-definition (HD) MPEG
>>>>>>>> Transport Stream video format, commonly called AVCHD. It contains HD video
>>>>>>>> compatible with Blu-ray disc format and is based on the MPEG-2 transport
>>>>>>>> stream. MTS files are often used by Sony, Panasonic, Canon and other HD
>>>>>>>> camcorders. Legal input for Video – MPEG1VIDEO, MPEG2VIDEO, H264; Audio –
>>>>>>>> MP1, MP2, AC3, AC3PLUS, DTS, TRUHD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note, mp2 and mp1 audio codecs are valid for transport stream
>>>>>>>> itself but not as on-disk format for Blu-Rays.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this case you still can save original video by using ffmpeg's
>>>>>>>> switches
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  -c:v copy -c:a ac3 , while outputting into another temporal ts
>>>>>>>> container.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> {waiting for Terje's results on pcm_bluray case}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think all m2ts files you used for testing were h264/aac (or ac3),
>>>>>>>> not from-camcoder HDVs with mpeg2 video/mp2 audio.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you can try HDV-in-mov from this folder as ffmpeg test file, I think
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/mov/FCP/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh, this is not mp2 audio but pcm audio. And ..not exactly kind of
>>>>>>> pcm used on blurays!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so this line work, note mpegts_m2ts_mode switch for enabling more
>>>>>>> bluray like output, without it ffmpeg will mux audio into private stream -
>>>>>>> good luck getting it back!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ffmpeg -i  HDV_1080i50.mov -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray
>>>>>>> -mpegts_m2ts_mode 1 hdv.mts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> then tsmuxer recognizes mts file as below:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~/tsMuxer $ tsmuxer hdv.mts
>>>>>>> tsMuxeR version 2.6.16-dev. github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer
>>>>>>> Track ID:    4113
>>>>>>>    Stream type: MPEG-2
>>>>>>> Stream ID:   V_MPEG-2
>>>>>>> Stream info: Profile: Main at 6. Resolution: 1440:1080i. Frame rate: 25
>>>>>>> Stream lang:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Track ID:    4352
>>>>>>> Stream type: LPCM
>>>>>>> Stream ID:   A_LPCM
>>>>>>> Stream info: Bitrate: 1536Kbps  Sample Rate: 48KHz  Channels: 2
>>>>>>> Bits per sample: 16bit
>>>>>>> Stream lang: eng
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Duration: 00:00:08.000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ====
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder if you can cp this file few times and then cat them back
>>>>>>> together for simulating longer video ) ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/OpenShot/openshot-qt/issues/3428#top
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this one contain real very short hdv sample with mp2 sound
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://twenkid.com/os/3.m2t
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can try to dig and test further into this matter later this month -
>>>>>> or possibly more realistic next month.
>>>>>> Currently I spend some holiday weeks on Gran Canaria 😎
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> have good times (even without camcoder!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some thoughts in advance:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would it possibly be better/clear to differ/split between the
>>>>>> formats, HDV video on tape (M2T container) and the successor H264/AVC(HD)
>>>>>> video on disk?
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sure, right now it confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Possibly you still have the probably little longer HDV 1080i sample
>>>>>> file, "20081103140154.m2t" we used for the HDV format patch here
>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org/msg02048.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, will call my friend 'find' )
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if  Phyllis has access to a Blu-ray disc burner and BD hw player,
>>>>>> testing could possibly start sooner(?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For creating a blu-ray disc, if you have HDV MPEG-2 media that is
>>>>>>>> in blu-ray format, you can save the original quality of your work, rather
>>>>>>>> than rendering it to another format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> {I hope Terje will let us know if bdwrite still works with bluray
>>>>>>>> pcm audio as produced by ffmpeg 5.1+}
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot one question:
>>>>> Will it be possible and how to access and use ffmpeg-5.x included with
>>>>> Cin-GG in a terminal as usual?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> if you compile your own cinelerra ffmpeg binary will be in
>>>> thirdparty/ffmpeg-5.1/ffmpeg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we do not install this binary because cin does all work via library
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> So I think you can do single-user build and then play with compiled
>>>> binary and may be even use it in shell scripting as described in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Menu_Bar_Shell_Commands.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The latest openSUSE Leap 15.4 distro I use, has so far no official
>>>>> ffmpeg-5.x package or codec enabled from Packman.
>>>>> I have add-installed ffmpeg-5.1.2 from OBS (Open Build Service), but
>>>>> don't know if it works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> ===========================
>>>
>>>
>>>> A first test step with add-installed Experimental
>>>> ffmpeg-5-5.1.2-lp154.35.1.x86_64.rpm for Leap 15.4 from
>>>>
>>>> https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ffmpeg-5&project=multimedia%3Alibs
>>>> https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia%3Alibs/ffmpeg-5
>>>>
>>>> zypper addrepo
>>>> https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:libs/15.4/multimedia:libs.repo
>>>> zypper refresh
>>>> zypper install ffmpeg-5
>>>>
>>>> ----------------
>>>>
>>>> ffmpeg -i 3.m2t -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray output.ts
>>>> ffmpeg version 5.1.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg developers
>>>>   built with gcc 7 (SUSE Linux)
>>>> -------------
>>>> Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
>>>>   Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
>>>>   Program 1
>>>>     Metadata:
>>>>       service_name    : Service01
>>>>       service_provider: FFmpeg
>>>>   Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
>>>> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
>>>> 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>>>>     Side data:
>>>>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
>>>> vbv_delay: N/A
>>>>   Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
>>>> stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
>>>> Unknown encoder 'pcm_bluray'
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> Obviously pcm_bluray encoder is not enabled - only the decoder is
>>>> enabled. Then it will be difficult ...
>>>>
>>>> ffmpeg -codecs -hide_banner | egrep "pcm|pcm_bluray"
>>>>
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_4xm            ADPCM 4X Movie
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_adx            SEGA CRI ADX ADPCM
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_afc            ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube AFC
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_agm            ADPCM AmuseGraphics Movie AGM
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_aica           ADPCM Yamaha AICA
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_argo           ADPCM Argonaut Games
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ct             ADPCM Creative Technology
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_dtk            ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube DTK
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ea             ADPCM Electronic Arts
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ea_maxis_xa    ADPCM Electronic Arts Maxis CDROM XA
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ea_r1          ADPCM Electronic Arts R1
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ea_r2          ADPCM Electronic Arts R2
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ea_r3          ADPCM Electronic Arts R3
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ea_xas         ADPCM Electronic Arts XAS
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_g722           G.722 ADPCM
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_g726           G.726 ADPCM
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_g726le         G.726 ADPCM little-endian
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_acorn      ADPCM IMA Acorn Replay
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_alp        ADPCM IMA High Voltage Software ALP
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_amv        ADPCM IMA AMV
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_apc        ADPCM IMA CRYO APC
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_apm        ADPCM IMA Ubisoft APM
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_cunning    ADPCM IMA Cunning Developments
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_dat4       ADPCM IMA Eurocom DAT4
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk3        ADPCM IMA Duck DK3
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk4        ADPCM IMA Duck DK4
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_eacs    ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts EACS
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_sead    ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts SEAD
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_iss        ADPCM IMA Funcom ISS
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_moflex     ADPCM IMA MobiClip MOFLEX
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_mtf        ADPCM IMA Capcom's MT Framework
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_oki        ADPCM IMA Dialogic OKI
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_qt         ADPCM IMA QuickTime
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_rad        ADPCM IMA Radical
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_smjpeg     ADPCM IMA Loki SDL MJPEG
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ssi        ADPCM IMA Simon & Schuster Interactive
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_wav        ADPCM IMA WAV
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ima_ws         ADPCM IMA Westwood
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_ms             ADPCM Microsoft
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_mtaf           ADPCM MTAF
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_psx            ADPCM Playstation
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_2        ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2-bit
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_3        ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2.6-bit
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_4        ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 4-bit
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_swf            ADPCM Shockwave Flash
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_thp            ADPCM Nintendo THP
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_thp_le         ADPCM Nintendo THP (Little-Endian)
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_vima           LucasArts VIMA audio
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_xa             ADPCM CDROM XA
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_yamaha         ADPCM Yamaha
>>>>  ..AIL. adpcm_zork           ADPCM Zork
>>>>  ..AIL. derf_dpcm            DPCM Xilam DERF
>>>>  ..AIL. gremlin_dpcm         DPCM Gremlin
>>>>  ..AIL. interplay_dpcm       DPCM Interplay
>>>>  DEAIL. pcm_alaw             PCM A-law / G.711 A-law
>>>>  D.AI.S pcm_bluray           PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian for
>>>> Blu-ray media
>>>>  D.AI.S pcm_dvd              PCM signed 20|24-bit big-endian
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_f16le            PCM 16.8 floating point little-endian
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_f24le            PCM 24.0 floating point little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_f32be            PCM 32-bit floating point big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_f32le            PCM 32-bit floating point little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_f64be            PCM 64-bit floating point big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_f64le            PCM 64-bit floating point little-endian
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_lxf              PCM signed 20-bit little-endian planar
>>>>  DEAIL. pcm_mulaw            PCM mu-law / G.711 mu-law
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s16be            PCM signed 16-bit big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s16be_planar     PCM signed 16-bit big-endian planar
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s16le            PCM signed 16-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s16le_planar     PCM signed 16-bit little-endian planar
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s24be            PCM signed 24-bit big-endian
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_s24daud          PCM D-Cinema audio signed 24-bit
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s24le            PCM signed 24-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s24le_planar     PCM signed 24-bit little-endian planar
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s32be            PCM signed 32-bit big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s32le            PCM signed 32-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s32le_planar     PCM signed 32-bit little-endian planar
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_s64be            PCM signed 64-bit big-endian
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_s64le            PCM signed 64-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s8               PCM signed 8-bit
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_s8_planar        PCM signed 8-bit planar
>>>>  ..AI.S pcm_sga              PCM SGA
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u16be            PCM unsigned 16-bit big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u16le            PCM unsigned 16-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u24be            PCM unsigned 24-bit big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u24le            PCM unsigned 24-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u32be            PCM unsigned 32-bit big-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u32le            PCM unsigned 32-bit little-endian
>>>>  DEAI.S pcm_u8               PCM unsigned 8-bit
>>>>  ..AIL. pcm_vidc             PCM Archimedes VIDC
>>>>  ..AIL. roq_dpcm             DPCM id RoQ
>>>>  ..AIL. sdx2_dpcm            DPCM Squareroot-Delta-Exact
>>>>  ..AIL. sol_dpcm             DPCM Sol
>>>>  ..AIL. xan_dpcm             DPCM Xan
>>>>
>>>
>>> for me it says
>>>
>>> DEAI.S pcm_bluray           PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian for
>>> Blu-ray media
>>>
>>>
>>> on termux. Guess suse people a bit afraid about enabling anything bluray
>>> related in widely-distributed packages. Just for checking you can ask
>>> package maintainer, may be he (?) disabled it by oversight.
>>>
>>> So yeah, for this test self-compiled ffmpeg will be more interesting (on
>>> x86/glibc system simple configure/make should give you ff* binaries)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>> ======================
>>>
>>>
>>> I upgraded instead my rolling openSUSE Tumbleweed with the recent
>>> multimedia codec enabled ffmpeg 5.1.2 from Packman
>>> https://opensuse.github.io/openSUSE-docs-revamped-temp/codecs/
>>>
>>> where also the pcm_bluray encoder is enabled:
>>>
>>> ffmpeg -codecs -hide_banner | grep pcm_bluray
>>>  DEAI.S pcm_bluray           PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian for
>>> Blu-ray media
>>>
>>>
>>> and verified first the input file
>>>
>>>  ffprobe -hide_banner 3.m2t
>>> Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
>>>   Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
>>>   Program 1
>>>     Metadata:
>>>       service_name    : Service01
>>>       service_provider: FFmpeg
>>>   Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
>>> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
>>> 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>>>     Side data:
>>>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
>>> vbv_delay: N/A
>>>   Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
>>> stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
>>>
>>>
>>> Then a new attempt with the first step to transcode the mp2 audio to
>>> pcm_blu-ray.
>>> Added also for this case the "-mpegts_m2ts_mode 1" switch for enabling
>>> more bluray like output, because without it didn't seem to be recognized!?
>>>
>>>
>>> ffmpeg -i 3.m2t -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray -mpegts_m2ts_mode 1 output.mts
>>> ffmpeg version 5.1.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg developers
>>>   built with gcc 12 (SUSE Linux)
>>> ..........
>>> Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':
>>>   Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s
>>>   Program 1
>>>     Metadata:
>>>       service_name    : Service01
>>>       service_provider: FFmpeg
>>>   Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
>>> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
>>> 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>>>     Side data:
>>>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
>>> vbv_delay: N/A
>>>   Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
>>> stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
>>> Stream mapping:
>>>   Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (copy)
>>>   Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (mp2 (native) -> pcm_bluray (native))
>>> Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
>>> Output #0, mpegts, to 'output.mts':
>>>   Metadata:
>>>     encoder         : Lavf59.27.100
>>>   Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
>>> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 25000
>>> kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>>>     Side data:
>>>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
>>> vbv_delay: N/A
>>>   Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_bluray, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 128 kb/s
>>>     Metadata:
>>>       encoder         : Lavc59.37.100 pcm_bluray
>>> frame=   76 fps=0.0 q=-1.0 Lsize=    8898kB time=00:00:03.00
>>> bitrate=24297.5kbits/s speed= 139x
>>> video:7854kB audio:565kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global
>>> headers:0kB muxing overhead: 5.697285%
>>>
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> At last verified the output file:
>>>
>>> ffprobe -hide_banner output.ts
>>> Input #0, mpegts, from 'output.ts':
>>>
>>
>> above you output in mts not ts .... ?
>>
>>
>>
>> =======================
>>
>> It looks to be copy-error from my note. To be sure I  repete it below for
>> ffprobe and additional mediainfo. (I also had "output.ts" from the attempt
>> without the mode switch.)
>> Not sure if TS and MTS by the way can be used interchangeable, both are
>> MPEG-transport streams, possibly TS is for MPEG-2 and MTS for H264/AVC only?
>> My HDV files on disk get .M2T extension when transfered from tape.
>>
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> from output it seems audio is there? Can you hear it in vlc/mpv ?
>
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> Yes, the "output.mts" audio can be heard ok via playback in vlc and mpv.
>



so, let stick to this specific 'extension' and hope ffmpeg behavior will
not change!

now attempt to use this *.mts file as input to bdwrite or tsmuxer ...

>
>
> But no audio heard from "output.ts" :
>
> ffprobe -hide_banner output.ts
> Input #0, mpegts, from 'output.ts':
>   Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 22791 kb/s
>   Program 1
>     Metadata:
>       service_name    : Service01
>       service_provider: FFmpeg
>   Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
> 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>     Side data:
>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
> vbv_delay: N/A
>   Stream #0:1[0x101]: Data: bin_data ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006)
> Unsupported codec with id 98314 for input stream 1
>
> --------------------------------
>
>
>>
>> ffprobe -hide_banner output.mts
>> Input #0, mpegts, from 'output.mts':
>>   Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 23490 kb/s
>>   Program 1
>>     Metadata:
>>       service_name    : Service01
>>       service_provider: FFmpeg
>>   Stream #0:0[0x1011]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
>> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
>> 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>>     Side data:
>>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
>> vbv_delay: N/A
>>   Stream #0:1[0x1100]: Audio: pcm_bluray ([128][0][0][0] / 0x0080), 48000
>> Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
>>
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
>> mediainfo output.mts
>> General
>> ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
>> Complete name                            : output.mts
>> Format                                   : BDAV
>> Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
>> File size                                : 8.69 MiB
>> Duration                                 : 2 s 502 ms
>> Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
>> Overall bit rate                         : 28.1 Mb/s
>>
>> Video
>> ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
>> Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
>> Format                                   : MPEG Video
>> Commercial name                          : HDV 1080i
>> Format version                           : Version 2
>> Format profile                           : Main at High 1440
>> Format settings                          : CustomMatrix / BVOP
>> Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
>> Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
>> Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
>> Format settings, picture structure       : Frame
>> Codec ID                                 : 2
>> Duration                                 : 2 s 536 ms
>> Bit rate mode                            : Constant
>> Bit rate                                 : 25.5 Mb/s
>> Maximum bit rate                         : 25.0 Mb/s
>> Width                                    : 1 440 pixels
>> Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
>> Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
>> Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
>> Standard                                 : Component
>> Color space                              : YUV
>> Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
>> Bit depth                                : 8 bits
>> Scan type                                : Interlaced
>> Scan order                               : Top Field First
>> Compression mode                         : Lossy
>> Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.546
>> Stream size                              : 7.69 MiB (89%)
>> Color primaries                          : BT.709
>> Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
>> Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
>>
>> Audio
>> ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
>> Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
>> Format                                   : PCM
>> Format settings                          : Big / Signed
>> Muxing mode                              : Blu-ray
>> Codec ID                                 : 128
>> Duration                                 : 2 s 995 ms
>> Bit rate mode                            : Constant
>> Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
>> Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
>> Channel layout                           : L R
>> Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
>> Bit depth                                : 16 bits
>> Delay relative to video                  : -567 ms
>> Stream size                              : 562 KiB (6%)
>>
>> Menu
>> ID                                       : 256 (0x100)
>> Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
>> Format                                   : MPEG Video / PCM
>> Duration                                 : 2 s 502 ms
>> List                                     : 4113 (0x1011) (MPEG Video) /
>> 4352 (0x1100) (PCM)
>> Service name                             : Service01
>> Service provider                         : FFmpeg
>> Service type                             : digital television
>>
>>
>> ================
>>
>>
>>
>>   Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 22791 kb/s
>>>   Program 1
>>>     Metadata:
>>>       service_name    : Service01
>>>       service_provider: FFmpeg
>>>   Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
>>> yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
>>> 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn
>>>     Side data:
>>>       cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
>>> vbv_delay: N/A
>>>   Stream #0:1[0x101]: Data: bin_data ([6][0][0][0] / 0x0006)
>>> Unsupported codec with id 98314 for input stream 1
>>>
>>> ==========================
>>>
>>>
>>
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