[Cin] Capturing DV/HDV via Firewire

Andrew Randrianasulu randrianasulu at gmail.com
Sun Feb 19 18:59:20 CET 2023


вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 20:39 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:

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> Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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> вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:43 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>> Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>> вс, 19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <
>> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
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>>> IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has been a standard
>>> connection to transfer native DV and HDV video files to Lin/Win/Apple
>>> computers.
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>>>    - FireWire DV/HDV recording should still work via dvgrab, vlc,
>>>    guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE systems.
>>>    - The basic dvgrab tool is still valid on Linux and was mentioned in
>>>    the Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2
>>>    - http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5
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>>>
>>>    - ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input device using libiec61883
>>>    (Streamcopy) seems also interesting.
>>>
>>> On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with
>>> --enable-libiec61883.
>>>
>>> Is possibly ffmpeg available with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG?
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>>> http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#iec61883
>>> http://underpop.online.fr/f/ffmpeg/help/iec61883.htm.gz
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>>> I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13 "Capturing and Recording
>>> Media", but could not see Firewire media transfer was mentioned.  However,
>>> in the Appendice section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional Packages is
>>> found:
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>>> --with-firewire       use firewire (auto)
>>> --with-dv                use dv (auto)
>>>
>>> Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture already is supported or optional
>>> can be configured?
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>> it was not tested in ages .....
>> guess try to install all -dev version of libraries and look at output of
>> cingg's configure .... then connect device and try to set capture device to
>> iec* ....
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>> I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab again (tested it
>> once several years ago), when my camcorder is back from service.
>> The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is
>> dead.
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> well, you can look if appimage version of cingg was compiled with those
> libraries
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> Could you possibly outline how to do it?
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in preferences -> recording tab there must be source named IEC 61883.



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> I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on CinCVS/Skolelinux
> mailing list and the referenced manual wiki:
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> https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg13022.html
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> https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg06183.html
> http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26
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> 21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder
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> There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to run the
> test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of *libiec61883*. Use this
> syntax:
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> test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg
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> and press *Play* on the camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources
> consuming task on your computer since the lack of caching in test-mpeg2
> causes frame drops.
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> New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example:
> Syntax:
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> dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip
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> , but I am guessing (from bug
> https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590 ) you might run
> into troubles trying to record exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV
> video, but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for dealing with this,
> but it probably must be wired to DV /firewire module, or something like
> this should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer:
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> https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9
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>>>
>>> Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas respectively
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>>> https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html
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>>> https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/article/capturing-video-from-a-sony-camcorder--222/
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>>>
>>> Terje J.  H
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