[Cin] AV1 yuv422p10le rendering with some output FFStream::seek I/O errors, seek fails

Terje J. Hanssen terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Wed Aug 7 22:52:42 CEST 2024



Den 07.08.2024 21:38, skrev Phyllis Smith via Cin:
>
>     g=30
>     keyint_min=30
>
> Seems to work for av1.webm format -- still testing.  I want to test 
> Andrew's suggestions next.
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 1:18 PM Andrew Randrianasulu 
> <randrianasulu at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 9:13 PM Phyllis Smith via Cin
>     <cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
>     >
>     > Summary is that the error message is due to lack of keyframes
>     and the workaround is to use Transcode.
>     > BUT hopefully a better solution with the Render format
>     parameters can be found.  The render fix for h264/h265 formats is
>     the addition of the lines below (which obviously is not pertinent
>     to av1).  I will see if I can find an alternative, but might not.
>
>     aomenc --help mentions
>
>     --kf-min-dist=<arg>         Minimum keyframe interval (frames)
>     --kf-max-dist=<arg>         Maximum keyframe interval (frames)
>
>     and there seems to be way (aom-params) to pass libaom specific options
>     via ffmpeg's ...
>
>     so ..
>     aom-params=kf-min-dist=25:kf-max-dist=25 ?
>
>     for svt-av1 you hopefully can use just keyint= with svtav1-params
>     line?
>     command line svt av1 encoder seems to default for 5 seconds?
>
>     Also, may be add keyint_min=25 (for 25 fps vid) as generic libav*
>     (ffmpeg) option
>
>
>     >>
>     >> # use framerate for 1 keyframe/sec, needed for seeks
>     >> keyint_min=25                  (or keyint_min=30 for x265)
>     >> x264-params=keyint=25   (or x265-params-keyint=30 for x265)
>     >
>     >
>     > About the error message:
>     >>
>     >> FFStream::seek:
>     /run/media/terje/Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_yuv422p10le_LP.webm
>     >>  retry limit, pos=207 tstmp=8280,   err: Input/output error
>     >> ** seek fail 207, 8280
>     >
>     >
>     > Seeking Issues
>     (https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Seeking_Issues.html)
>     >>
>     >> If you have an issue playing a video and not seeing it in the
>     Compositor (just see a black
>     >> screen), it is most likely due to the media not being designed
>     to be editable. It is most likely
>     >> not damaged. Generally it just does not have keyframes which
>     are needed for seeking
>     >> which is what is done when you move around the media and start
>     playing in the middle.
>     >> The media plays just fine in the compositor if you always play
>     from the beginning because
>     >> then you don’t need keyframes to seek. You can get around this
>     problem if you proxy the
>     >> media. A good choice to use for the proxy would be use scalar,
>     ffmpeg/mp4 and size of 1/2.
>     >>
>     >> The proxied media can then seek and you will see it play in the
>     compositor because keyframes exist.
>     >
>     > Or use TRANSCODE which adds keyframes when media is not seekable
>     (see Manual for details). This is particularly useful for the mkv
>     container, which often has seek problems.
>     >
>     > Just a reminder about the message below.
>     >>
>     >> FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
>     >
>     > This is not a problem. Basically, when you open a file if a
>     stream has a known duration, there is no message. If the duration
>     is unknown, it is estimated by using the File Size and Bitrate to
>     estimate the duration.
>     > ----------------------------------------
>
>
@Andrew, @Phyllis

Thank for your comments and suggestions, which I so far only have read 
while doing some alternative testing.

First, to ensure this was correct understood:
I didn't notice the same error messages using the same input file and 
rendering to h265.mp4 and h264.mp4

Now I have also tried to render the same input file using the (4.3x 
faster) av1_svt, but with the available 8-bit color depth in 10-bit mode:
     17M    av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm

Below follows output messages with no error messages, so yes, I think 
some preset parameters possibly should be added to the av1_aom.webm:

    FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    /Videoklipp/Cineform/cfhd01.mkv
    Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
    Svt[info]: SVT [version]:    SVT-AV1 Encoder Lib v1.8.0
    Svt[info]: SVT [build]  :    GCC 10.3.1 20210422 (Red Hat
    10.3.1-1)     64 bit
    Svt[info]: LIB Build date: Jul 31 2024 07:22:12
    Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
    Svt[info]: Number of logical cores available: 20
    Svt[info]: Number of PPCS 76
    Svt[info]: [asm level on system : up to avx2]
    Svt[info]: [asm level selected : up to avx2]
    Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
    Svt[info]: SVT [config]: main profile    tier (auto)    level (auto)
    Svt[info]: SVT [config]: width / height / fps numerator / fps
    denominator         : 1920 / 1080 / 25 / 1
    Svt[info]: SVT [config]: bit-depth / color format     : 10 / YUV420
    Svt[info]: SVT [config]: preset / tune / pred struct         : 10 /
    PSNR / random access
    Svt[info]: SVT [config]: gop size / mini-gop size / key-frame type
                 : 161 / 16 / key frame
    Svt[info]: SVT [config]: BRC mode / rate factor     : CRF / 35
    Svt[info]: -------------------------------------------
    FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    /Videoklipp/Cineform/cfhd01.mkv
    Render::render_single: Session finished.
    ** rendered 1780 frames in 51.541 secs, 34.536 fps
    FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    /Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm
    FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    /Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm
    FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    /Videoklipp/Cineform/av1_svt_yuv420p10le_SR.webm
    FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated:
    /Videoklipp/Cineform/cfhd01.mkv



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