[Cin] Anamorphic 16:9 SD-DV(D) widescreen to AV1.webm

Andrew Randrianasulu randrianasulu at gmail.com
Sun Jan 14 18:41:09 CET 2024


вс, 14 янв. 2024 г., 19:51 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:

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> Den 14.01.2024 17:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
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> Den 13.01.2024 18:48, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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> сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 07:47 Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu at gmail.com>:
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>> сб, 13 янв. 2024 г., 03:26 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <
>> cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
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>>> Den 11.01.2024 23:43, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
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>>> .......
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>>> 4 a) Cin-GG
>>> Loaded a PAL 1080i/50 HDV clip
>>> Set Format Preset: PAL 576i (16:9) - DV(D)
>>> File Render File Format: FFmepg - avi   (NB! because plain Raw DV still
>>> causes DAR 4:3)
>>>                      Audio: Preset: avi_pcm_s16.avi
>>>                      Video: Compression: dv_pal.avi
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>>> For me it looks like the Set Format Preset: PAL 576i (16:9) - DV(D
>>> and/or the File Format: FFmpeg make up the correct DAR 16:9 here, right?
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>>> Because by Selecting the Format: *Raw DV *cause rendering to *DAR 4:3*
>>> as shown below !
>>> This makes me wonder if it is only the FFmepg File formats that
>>> currently is fixed by patches?
>>> May also other non-FFmpeg formats be affected by anamorphic aspect
>>> ratios ?
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>> This is possible! I basically never used non-ffmpeg video encoders! I
>> think we have 3 of them - raw dv, mpeg video and theora video.
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>> I'll check each of them.
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> OOPS!
> As already mentioned, CinGG's FFmpeg-avi was saved/displayed 16:9 and the
> Raw DV was saved/displayed 4:3.
> BUT, in addition I discovered now that in both cases the images have been
> cropped around, that is cut off at both sides, top and bottom.
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I wonder how much was cropped?

May be I misread you but you loaded HDV 1440*1080 clip and then rendered it
into ffmpeg DV at 576i WITHOUT any scaling on top?



That is, the 16:9 avi is displayed with correct geometry, while the 4:3 Raw
> DV is displayed stretched vertically.
> The latter get correct geometry if forced aspect 16:9 during VLC playback..
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> Actually, only my ffmpeg manual encoded DV-wide has got correct DAR 16:9
> and also correct geometry.
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> And kept the full image (un-cropped).
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> A visual tip is that this is easiest to discover and compare side by side
> using large file thumbnails with (Gnome) Filemanager.
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> in cinelerra/fileogg.C I found this comment:
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> if( asset->aspect_ratio > 0 ) {
>                 // Cinelerra uses frame aspect ratio, theora uses pixel
> aspect ratio
>   float pixel_aspect = asset->aspect_ratio / asset->width * asset->height;
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>  aratio_num = pixel_aspect * 1000000;
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>   aratio_den = 1000000;
>                   }
>         else {
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>  aratio_num = 1000000;
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>  aratio_den = 1000000;
>                   }
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> strangely enough filedv seems to contain code to set is16x9 encoder flag
> ... not sure why it fails ....
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> mpeg video also should honor aspect ratio, but not tested yet.
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>>> mediainfo dv07_05_wide_cingg.dv | grep Display
>>>   Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
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>>> ffprobe -hide_banner dv07_05_wide_cingg.dv
>>> Input #0, dv, from 'dv07_05_wide_cingg.dv':
>>>   Duration: 00:06:58.08, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 28800 kb/s
>>>   Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv420p, 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3],
>>> 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
>>>   Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s
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