[Cin] "Competitors" or do we want to stay alive?

[Andrew Randrianasulu]

Sorry for being frustrated lately.

Realities of all this "modern development" vs me tend to be not in favor of
our project.

I looked up two "other" projects in video editing.

MLT is well-known and going on for nearly two decades.

In this year release notes we see:

https://github.com/mltframework/mlt/releases


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https://github.com/mltframework/mlt/releases/tag/v7.30.0


Added support for mlt_image_yuv420p10, mlt_image_yuv444p10, and
mlt_image_yuv422p16 in avfilter, swscale, and rescale filters.
This facilitates using these pixel formats end-to-end when using only
FFmpeg producers, certain avfilters, and avformat consumer. This means it
is possible to do 10-bit end-to-end on the CPU when being careful to select
compatible components and options to avoid conversions. One can
pass-through HDR; however, you must set the color_trc and pix_fmt
properties on the avformat consumer (see ffmpeg -h full for these values).
The avformat consumer automatically converts MLT colorspace (integer value)
to FFmpeg's colorspace and color_primaries (unless explicit) options.

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I take this as "floating point pipeline still not here".

Olive branch is even more depressing:

https://github.com/olive-editor/olive/issues

Last non-CI commit was in ... september 2023?

May be developing moved somewhere, but this mean all exiting new bugs and
state of being incomplete for  few more years, given that even with most of
hard work done by OpenGL, OCIO, ffmpeg etc remaining NLE core is not that
simple, as it turned out to be.

Natron does not do audio, as far as I know, and also hanging on a thread
(single developer).

Blender is a Big Shot now, with predictably big requirements both in
software (try to build it on Slackware) and in hardware. Driven by higher
end!

And whole "Oh lol X is deprecated, everyone rewrite themselves to Wayland"
push. I bet there might be way to resistance say Intel's or Nvidia "HDR on
X" proposals in Xwayland but who will do all this work for single
application? It took Valve's money effectively to get anything at all done
in this area.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/X11-DeepColor-Visual-RFC

from 2017 ....

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2017-December/036403.html

It took whole 8 years to get into "usable in mpv" state, and producing
video usually have higher demands than playing back.

I am fairly sure someone will write something in Rust (so it will break in
6 months time because Rust is for Big D Developers who have no problems
with such churn) or c++ 25 because c+11 is too archaic and all new courses
are about $latest (double meaning of $ here).

Again, I do not think this is only individual developers fault, just more
complex issue with constant stream of *new*  hardware we supposed to fix in
field by writing software, somehow (HDR displays are all or nothing, so
HD(R), SD and GUI all must be mixed on host side). And general "culture" of
individualism (because Silicon Valley, bebe!)  and effectively social
darwinism (where are XDTV and libquicktime? killed by constant API churn
....).

I see no escape from this, at larger scale. And this makes me even more
frustrated.

cc ffmpeg-user/libav user because otherwise no one from "outside" will ever
read this.
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