[Cin] Record HDV cam Live video with IEC61883 failed
Terje J. Hanssen
terjejhanssen at gmail.com
Thu Jun 26 17:56:17 CEST 2025
Den 20.06.2025 00:50, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:
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> Den 20.06.2025 00:43, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>> пт, 20 июн. 2025 г., 01:25 Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen at gmail.com>:
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>> On 19.06.2025 12:43, Terje J. Hanssen wrote:
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>>> Den 18.06.2025 22:17, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:
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>>>> ср, 18 июн. 2025 г., 23:13 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin
>>>> <cin at lists.cinelerra-gg.org>:
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>>>> I tried CinGG-20250430-x86_64.AppImage to record HDV cam
>>>> Live video connected via IEEE-1394 (Sony iLink, Firewire)
>>>> using the iec61883 driver.
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>>>> "For the IEC 61883 driver, the compression must be DV."
>>>> I think HDV (mpeg2) was never implemented there?
>>>
>>> I noticed "must be DV", but was not sure how literal "DV" was
>>> meant(?)
>>>
>>> According to the ffmpeg man page for iec61883:
>>> /The iec61883 capture device supports capturing from a video
>>> device connected via IEEE1394 (FireWire), using *libiec61883
>>> *and the new Linux FireWire stack (juju). This is the *default
>>> DV/HDV input method* in Linux Kernel 2.6.37 and later, since the
>>> old FireWire stack was removed.
>>> Specify the FireWire port to be used as input file, or "auto" to
>>> choose the first port connected.
>>> /https://www.mankier.com/1/ffmpeg-devices#Input_Devices-iec61883/
>>>
>>> /Kernel 2.6.37 was released in Jan 2011.
>>> And according to Phoronix:Linux Has A New Firewire IEEE-1394
>>> Maintainer - Intends To Maintain Support To 2029/
>>> /https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Firewire-New-Maintainer/
>>> /
>>>
>>>> I am not sure if I can do anything even if changes very simple
>>>> - I have no such hardware.....
>>>
>>> Yeah, I understand that will be difficult.
>>> My legacy SuperMicro workstation had a Firewire port on its
>>> front panel, which now is working with a
>>> Texas Instruments XIO2200A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (pci)
>>> mounted on the MSI mobo.
>>>
>>> libIEC 61883 has not been enabled on my system ffmpeg-7, but
>>> recently I got this bug accepted by OBS, and iec61883 is just
>>> enabled in Factory.
>>> So when it is available for Slowroll, I will try recording with
>>> ffmpeg.
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Yeah, got an upgrade of ffmpeg-7 version 7.1.1-1699.6.0.6.pm.1 (Packman)
with libiec61883 enabled for openSUSE-Slowroll.
Connected my 1080i HDV camera via Firewire and tested with the ffmpeg
code examples from the documentation
https://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-devices.html#Examples-3
As seen the connection works straight off, so in that respect also Cingg
Record ought to work:
1) Grab and show the input of a FireWire DV/HDV device.
ffplay -f iec61883 -i auto
libiec61883 error: Failed to get channels available.= 0B
[mpeg2video @ 0x7fc11401d340] Invalid frame dimensions 0x0.
[iec61883 @ 0x7fc114000c80] Could not find codec parameters for stream 0
(Unknown: none): unknown codec
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options
[iec61883 @ 0x7fc114000c80] Could not find codec parameters for stream 3
(Unknown: none ([161][0][0][0] / 0x00A1)): unknown codec
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options
[iec61883 @ 0x7fc114000c80] Could not find codec parameters for stream 4
(Unknown: none ([160][0][0][0] / 0x00A0)): unknown codec
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options
Input #0, iec61883, from 'auto':
Duration: N/A, start: 53.733222, bitrate: 25384 kb/s
Program 100
Stream #0:1: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn
Side data:
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
vbv_delay: N/A
Stream #0:2: Audio: mp2 (mp3float) ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
Stream #0:4: Unknown: none ([160][0][0][0] / 0x00A0)
Stream #0:3: Unknown: none ([161][0][0][0] / 0x00A1)
No Program
Stream #0:0: Unknown: none
^Cterje at localhost:~> d= 0 aq= 46KB vq= 3757KB sq= 0B
2) Grab and record the input of a FireWire DV/HDV device, using a packet
buffer of 100000 packets if the source is HDV.
ffmpeg -hide_banner -f iec61883 -i auto -dvbuffer 100000 ffmpeg_fw.m2t
libiec61883 error: Failed to get channels available.
[mpeg2video @ 0x55dcc1538940] Invalid frame dimensions 0x0.
Last message repeated 9 times
[iec61883 @ 0x55dcc151aa00] Could not find codec parameters for stream 0
(Unknown: none): unknown codec
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options
[iec61883 @ 0x55dcc151aa00] Could not find codec parameters for stream 3
(Unknown: none ([161][0][0][0] / 0x00A1)): unknown codec
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options
[iec61883 @ 0x55dcc151aa00] Could not find codec parameters for stream 4
(Unknown: none ([160][0][0][0] / 0x00A0)): unknown codec
Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options
Input #0, iec61883, from 'auto':
Duration: N/A, start: 214.629222, bitrate: 25384 kb/s
Program 100
Stream #0:2: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] / 0x0002),
yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25000 kb/s,
25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn
Side data:
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
vbv_delay: N/A
Stream #0:1: Audio: mp2 (mp3float) ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000 Hz,
stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s
Stream #0:4: Unknown: none ([160][0][0][0] / 0x00A0)
Stream #0:3: Unknown: none ([161][0][0][0] / 0x00A1)
No Program
Stream #0:0: Unknown: none
Stream mapping:
Stream #0:2 -> #0:0 (mpeg2video (native) -> mpeg2video (native))
Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (mp2 (native) -> mp2 (native))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
Output #0, mpegts, to 'ffmpeg_fw.m2t':
Metadata:
encoder : Lavf61.7.100
Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top coded
first (swapped)), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 25
fps, 90k tbn
Metadata:
encoder : Lavc61.19.101 mpeg2video
Side data:
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 0/0/200000 buffer size: 0 vbv_delay: N/A
Stream #0:1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 384 kb/s
Metadata:
encoder : Lavc61.19.101 mp2
[out#0/mpegts @ 0x55dcc157c1c0] video:6855KiB audio:1485KiB
subtitle:0KiB other streams:0KiB global headers:0KiB muxing overhead:
5.312824%
frame= 778 fps= 26 q=31.0 Lsize= 8783KiB time=00:00:31.66
bitrate=2271.9kbits/s speed=1.05x
Exiting normally, received signal 2.
As seen from the output above, both 1) ffplay and 2) ffmpeg codes works,
but IMO not streamlined nor optimal:
What surprise me is the warning messages, also reported by other
"Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and
'probesize' (5000000) options"
Tried to set both up to value 50M on the input side, while they still
didn't disappear
And next, why the default output bitrate=2271.9kbits/s is much lower
than the standard m2t input 25000 kb/s
I would have expected that the documentation had brought up something
better to grab a standard HDV.m2t file format?
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