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    <p>The way it is at the moment, I personally think it's better. I
      see the framework that I also want to move. I pull the frame in
      the direction I want it to go and the frame moves in that
      direction. The current operating manner is much more intuitive
      than the old one. The old way of working has always confused me. <br>
      <br>
      However, it still doesn't work properly and in my opinion it's a
      bug.<br>
      As soon as I reduce the red frame, the green frame would have to
      be reduced proportionally. I shrink the whole view area (red
      frame) of the visible area, so the area of the camera view should
      shrink as well. I can't have a larger view area of the camera than
      the area of the projector. If I would now switch from projector
      view to camera view, then it would have to have the same size, 50%
      smaller projector area = 50% smaller camera area. Then the view of
      the red and green frame would be correct. The green frame can be
      enlarged in the second step, but only after the size has been
      adjusted proportionally to the red frame. The green frame may also
      be larger than the red frame, but this would mean a zoom inside
      the red frame.<br>
      <br>
      Sam<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04.04.19 19:04, Phyllis Smith wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><span
              class="en_0 gmail-Q_fq7 gmail-i_0"></span>
            <div class="gmail-o_h gmail-D_F em_0 gmail-E_fq7 ek_BB">
              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
                      gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>Andrea: it was
                        changed around September 2018.  Below the dotted
                        line is the original email.  I thought I had
                        corrected the wording in the manual but
                        apparently I only fixed one place.<br>
                      </span></span></span></span></div>
              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
                      gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span><br>
                      </span></span></span></span></div>
              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
                      gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>And if while making
                        a new video, you get some good explanatory
                        screenshots that I can use for the manual, that
                        would be great!  (Else, I might have to steal
                        them from your video).  I have not spent any
                        time understanding the camera and projector so
                        in the manual just mostly did a "cut and paste"
                        from the cv manual without the accompanying
                        screenshots which were outdated.<br>
                      </span></span></span></span></div>
              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
                      gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
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                <div class="gmail-o_h gmail-D_F em_0 gmail-E_fq7 ek_BB">
                  <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b
                      en_0 gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span
                          class="gmail-D_F gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>EMAIL
                            RESPONSE:</span></span></span></span></div>
                  <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b
                      en_0 gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span
                          class="gmail-D_F gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>Phyllis
                            Smith<span class="gmail-u_N gmail-C_Z1VRpVF"> <<a
                                href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>></span></span></span></span></span></div>
                  <div class="gmail-d_6FIA gmail-i_6FIA gmail-D_F eo_HB"><span
                      class="gmail-u_b gmail-E_eo6 gmail-C_Z1TsNWR">To:</span><span><span
                        class="gmail-D_F gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span
                          class="gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"
                          title="cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org"><a
                            href="mailto:cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org</a></span></span></span></div>
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                <div class="gmail-D_F en_0 gmail-M_3gJOe gmail-A_6Eb4
                  gmail-C_Z1VRpVF"><span>Sep 9, 2018 at 11:49 AM</span></div>
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                    <div class="gmail-jb_0 gmail-X_6MGW gmail-N_6Fd5">
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                            <div dir="ltr">I don't like it either.  GG
                              is going to make a mod and change it
                              UNLESS users are so enamoured with the
                              current way it works and say "please do
                              not change it".  And is it later becomes a
                              problem, can reverse it.</div>
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              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
                      gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>EMAIL REQUEST:</span></span></span></span></div>
              <div class="gmail-D_F en_0"><span class="gmail-u_b en_0
                  gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"><span><span class="gmail-D_F
                      gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>Olaf<span
                          class="gmail-u_N gmail-C_Z1VRpVF"> <<a
                            href="mailto:cinmail@womentie.de"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">cinmail@womentie.de</a>></span></span></span></span></span></div>
              <div class="gmail-d_6FIA gmail-i_6FIA gmail-D_F eo_HB"><span
                  class="gmail-u_b gmail-E_eo6 gmail-C_Z1TsNWR">To:</span><span><span
                    class="gmail-D_F gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span
                      class="gmail-C4_Z2aVTcY"
                      title="cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org"><a
                        href="mailto:cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org</a></span></span></span></div>
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            <span class="em_N en_N"></span>
            <div class="gmail-D_F en_0 gmail-M_3gJOe gmail-A_6Eb4
              gmail-C_Z1VRpVF"><span>Sep 9, 2018 at 10:35 AM</span></div>
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                <div class="gmail-jb_0 gmail-X_6MGW gmail-N_6Fd5">
                  <div>> "When we drag over the viewport in the
                    compositor window (although<br>
                    > initially counter-intuitive), the viewport does
                    not moves but the<br>
                    > area of video that sits under the camera's
                    location does, like when<br>
                    > watching the output of a moving camera.<br>
                    <br>
                    > For example, when you drag the camera down, the
                    viewport in effect<br>
                    > is moving downwards on the video, showing its
                    path towards the<br>
                    > bottom of the video, but from our perspective
                    on the compositor<br>
                    > screen, we see the video moving up. When you
                    drag the camera right,<br>
                    > the video seems to move left, and so on."<br>
                    <a
                      href="https://cinelerra-cv.org/docs/cinelerra_cv_manual_en.html#SEC129"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cinelerra-cv.org/docs/cinelerra_cv_manual_en.html#SEC129</a><br>
                    <br>
                    I say it freely, I don't like it. I work a lot with
                    the camera and<br>
                    feel that this is an unnecessary hurdle. Do I stand
                    alone with it,<br>
                    has anyone ever thought about cutting off the old
                    plait?<br>
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