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<p>The way it is at the moment, I personally think it's better. I
see the framework that I also want to move. I pull the frame in
the direction I want it to go and the frame moves in that
direction. The current operating manner is much more intuitive
than the old one. The old way of working has always confused me. <br>
<br>
However, it still doesn't work properly and in my opinion it's a
bug.<br>
As soon as I reduce the red frame, the green frame would have to
be reduced proportionally. I shrink the whole view area (red
frame) of the visible area, so the area of the camera view should
shrink as well. I can't have a larger view area of the camera than
the area of the projector. If I would now switch from projector
view to camera view, then it would have to have the same size, 50%
smaller projector area = 50% smaller camera area. Then the view of
the red and green frame would be correct. The green frame can be
enlarged in the second step, but only after the size has been
adjusted proportionally to the red frame. The green frame may also
be larger than the red frame, but this would mean a zoom inside
the red frame.<br>
<br>
Sam<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04.04.19 19:04, Phyllis Smith wrote:<br>
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gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>Andrea: it was
changed around September 2018. Below the dotted
line is the original email. I thought I had
corrected the wording in the manual but
apparently I only fixed one place.<br>
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gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>And if while making
a new video, you get some good explanatory
screenshots that I can use for the manual, that
would be great! (Else, I might have to steal
them from your video). I have not spent any
time understanding the camera and projector so
in the manual just mostly did a "cut and paste"
from the cv manual without the accompanying
screenshots which were outdated.<br>
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class="gmail-u_b gmail-E_eo6 gmail-C_Z1TsNWR">To:</span><span><span
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title="cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org"><a
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<div class="gmail-D_F en_0 gmail-M_3gJOe gmail-A_6Eb4
gmail-C_Z1VRpVF"><span>Sep 9, 2018 at 11:49 AM</span></div>
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is going to make a mod and change it
UNLESS users are so enamoured with the
current way it works and say "please do
not change it". And is it later becomes a
problem, can reverse it.</div>
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gmail-rtlI_rtlI_dz_sSg"><span>Olaf<span
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href="mailto:cinmail@womentie.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">cinmail@womentie.de</a>></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div class="gmail-d_6FIA gmail-i_6FIA gmail-D_F eo_HB"><span
class="gmail-u_b gmail-E_eo6 gmail-C_Z1TsNWR">To:</span><span><span
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title="cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org"><a
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moz-do-not-send="true">cinelerra@lists.cinelerra-cv.org</a></span></span></span></div>
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<div class="gmail-D_F en_0 gmail-M_3gJOe gmail-A_6Eb4
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<div>> "When we drag over the viewport in the
compositor window (although<br>
> initially counter-intuitive), the viewport does
not moves but the<br>
> area of video that sits under the camera's
location does, like when<br>
> watching the output of a moving camera.<br>
<br>
> For example, when you drag the camera down, the
viewport in effect<br>
> is moving downwards on the video, showing its
path towards the<br>
> bottom of the video, but from our perspective
on the compositor<br>
> screen, we see the video moving up. When you
drag the camera right,<br>
> the video seems to move left, and so on."<br>
<a
href="https://cinelerra-cv.org/docs/cinelerra_cv_manual_en.html#SEC129"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://cinelerra-cv.org/docs/cinelerra_cv_manual_en.html#SEC129</a><br>
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I say it freely, I don't like it. I work a lot with
the camera and<br>
feel that this is an unnecessary hurdle. Do I stand
alone with it,<br>
has anyone ever thought about cutting off the old
plait?<br>
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