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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I don't know if i get this right or wrong but i already worked
with several timelines in cinelerra. <br>
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<p>They were, in your exemple, "intro", "part 1", "part 2",
"credits" and each of it in was in a seperate project that you
could put together by only copy and paste, from one project to
another. <br>
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<p>Is the différence is they are now in the same project ?</p>
<p>Haldun.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 28/12/2019 à 00:41, Sam a écrit :<br>
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<p>One of the greatest strengths of commercial NLEs is the ability
to work with multiple timelines.<br>
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Why work with multiple timelines?<br>
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A movie project can be divided into several sections such as
intro, main part 1, main part 2 and credits.<br>
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From this I make four timelines called Intro, Part 1, Part 2,
Credits.<br>
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This splits the whole movie project into four parts and allows
faster working in the main window, because not the whole movie
project is loaded in the main window, but only a quarter of the
movie. This speeds up the work a lot and allows other
contributors to work on different parts of a film project and
finally add them together and make an overall coordination.<br>
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When the intro, main part 1, main part 2 and the credits are
finished, these timelines are joined together to form an overall
timeline. <br>
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A new timeline called Composition is created and Timeline Intro,
Timeline Part 1, Timeline Part 2 and Timeline Credits are
dragged into it.<br>
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Basically this feature is an extension of the EDL feature.</p>
<p>I created the photomontage very fast and therefore they have a
lot of potential for improvement. The final solution can of
course look completely different, the pictures only serve to
illustrate my idea.</p>
<p>Sam<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26.12.19 03:12, Phyllis Smith
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Never hurts
to make suggestions -- sometimes things get done when an
unexpected need arises here.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 5:36
PM Sam <<a href="mailto:cinelerra@posteo.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">cinelerra@posteo.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>Absolutely fantastic! I have been wishing for this
feature for so long, but due to his long wish list I did
not dare to say. <br>
This feature is the basis for several timelines. I miss
the timeline feature in Cinelerra for a long time. If
you agree, I would like to make some suggestions on this
topic for January. This EDL feature can be extended
relatively easily in my opinion.</p>
<p>Sam<br>
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<div>On 25.12.19 05:59, Phyllis Smith wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">With
the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is
included with your project as Clips, Nested Clips,
or Xml. For example, if you have a nested clip that
originally had several plugins added to it before it
was nested, you can edit those plugin parameter
values. Previously to make any changes to these EDL
clips/nested clips, you had to remake the whole clip
from scratch. This is done via "Open EDL" and
button click as described below by the <b>**</b>.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">In
addition a couple of modifications related to this
are noticeable to include the following:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> -
in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the
wording which was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media"</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> -
in the Clip folder, when you actually perform "Nest
to Media", the nested clip is only displayed in the
Media folder</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">for
example:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">1)
load some test media, mode replace project</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">2)
highlight a selection and press create clip. add
notes and press ok. clip is created</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">3)
in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1 is
present</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">4)
select clip1 and right mouse the item. select menu
item Open EDL</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">5)
timeline changes to just the clip content.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">6)
add a visible effect, like burning tv and press the
[1] in the main menu bar.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">7)
timeline is restored to original media.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">8)
drag the clip from the resources folder to the
timeline. The effect is visible.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><b>**</b>
- in the Clip folder, there is a new option to "Open
EDL" for the highlighted clip. When you choose this
option, the clip will be brought up on the
timeline. <b>VERY IMPORTANT to note</b>, the
previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack" (this
is programmer talk) so it is remembered and to get
back to that you have to "pop the stack" (more
programmer talk) by clicking on the button in the
upper right hand corner of the timeline above where
the Proxy switch button would be. Usually this
button will read 1 if you choose "Open EDL" and then
0 when back to your original timeline. You can go
several levels deep so instead of 1, it could be 2,
3, ... but I got to tell you that you can get lost
if you overdo it. Once the clip is open on the
timeline, you can edit it however you want.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> -
in the Media folder, once you have nested a clip,
the Nested clip will be located here<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> -
in the Media folder, the option to unnest the clip
is now called "EDL to clip" which results in the
nested clip being reverted to a clip and back into
the clip folder with only a name of "Clip #". The
nested clip is also still in the Media folder.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> -
in the Media folder, you now have the new option to
"Open EDL" as described for clips above. But in
this case when you Open EDL and edit the changes,
those changes will take affect on any and all
occurrences of that nested clip on the timeline.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I
will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10
static tars that contain this and other mods in the
Download / Documentation / File Storage at <a
href="http://cinelerra-gg.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">cinelerra-gg.org</a>.
Would be happy to make static tars for any other
usual distro/version if you would like to test
early.<br>
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