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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I always use Nesting
feature, for more complex projects, like showed in the my old
screencasts.<br>
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And in the CinelerraGG_manual_WorkInProgress (well done) in 5.7.8
section you can find more information.<br>
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Yes, if you update one, or more Sequences, the Master Project is
not update with the last changes that you had done on them, but
you can re-load the updated Sequences and overwrite them in the
Timeline if you work with method. (And I use, or better, I used
also Proxy with Nested)<br>
I am speaking about, before the last changes; I only saw the
Phyllis' Demo.<br>
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IgorBeg<br>
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Il 28/12/2019 8.52, Haldun ALTAN ha scritto:
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<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I don't know if i get this right or wrong but i already worked
with several timelines in cinelerra. <br>
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<p>They were, in your exemple, "intro", "part 1", "part 2",
"credits" and each of it in was in a seperate project that you
could put together by only copy and paste, from one project to
another. <br>
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<p>Is the différence is they are now in the same project ?</p>
<p>Haldun.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 28/12/2019 à 00:41, Sam a écrit :<br>
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<p>One of the greatest strengths of commercial NLEs is the
ability to work with multiple timelines.<br>
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Why work with multiple timelines?<br>
<br>
A movie project can be divided into several sections such as
intro, main part 1, main part 2 and credits.<br>
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From this I make four timelines called Intro, Part 1, Part 2,
Credits.<br>
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This splits the whole movie project into four parts and allows
faster working in the main window, because not the whole movie
project is loaded in the main window, but only a quarter of
the movie. This speeds up the work a lot and allows other
contributors to work on different parts of a film project and
finally add them together and make an overall coordination.<br>
<br>
When the intro, main part 1, main part 2 and the credits are
finished, these timelines are joined together to form an
overall timeline. <br>
<br>
A new timeline called Composition is created and Timeline
Intro, Timeline Part 1, Timeline Part 2 and Timeline Credits
are dragged into it.<br>
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Basically this feature is an extension of the EDL feature.</p>
<p>I created the photomontage very fast and therefore they have
a lot of potential for improvement. The final solution can of
course look completely different, the pictures only serve to
illustrate my idea.</p>
<p>Sam<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26.12.19 03:12, Phyllis Smith
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">Never
hurts to make suggestions -- sometimes things get done
when an unexpected need arises here.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at
5:36 PM Sam <<a href="mailto:cinelerra@posteo.de"
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<p>Absolutely fantastic! I have been wishing for this
feature for so long, but due to his long wish list I
did not dare to say. <br>
This feature is the basis for several timelines. I
miss the timeline feature in Cinelerra for a long
time. If you agree, I would like to make some
suggestions on this topic for January. This EDL
feature can be extended relatively easily in my
opinion.</p>
<p>Sam<br>
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<div>On 25.12.19 05:59, Phyllis Smith wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">With
the latest checkin, you can now edit EDL that is
included with your project as Clips, Nested Clips,
or Xml. For example, if you have a nested clip
that originally had several plugins added to it
before it was nested, you can edit those plugin
parameter values. Previously to make any changes
to these EDL clips/nested clips, you had to remake
the whole clip from scratch. This is done via
"Open EDL" and button click as described below by
the <b>**</b>.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">In
addition a couple of modifications related to this
are noticeable to include the following:</div>
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- in the Clip folder, when you Nest a clip, the
wording which was "Nest" is now "Nest to Media"</div>
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- in the Clip folder, when you actually perform
"Nest to Media", the nested clip is only displayed
in the Media folder</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">for
example:</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">1)
load some test media, mode replace project</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">2)
highlight a selection and press create clip. add
notes and press ok. clip is created</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">3)
in resources window, open the clip folder. clip1
is present</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">4)
select clip1 and right mouse the item. select
menu item Open EDL</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">5)
timeline changes to just the clip content.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">6)
add a visible effect, like burning tv and press
the [1] in the main menu bar.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">7)
timeline is restored to original media.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">8)
drag the clip from the resources folder to the
timeline. The effect is visible.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;"><b>**</b>
- in the Clip folder, there is a new option to
"Open EDL" for the highlighted clip. When you
choose this option, the clip will be brought up on
the timeline. <b>VERY IMPORTANT to note</b>, the
previous timeline EDL is "pushed onto a stack"
(this is programmer talk) so it is remembered and
to get back to that you have to "pop the stack"
(more programmer talk) by clicking on the button
in the upper right hand corner of the timeline
above where the Proxy switch button would be.
Usually this button will read 1 if you choose
"Open EDL" and then 0 when back to your original
timeline. You can go several levels deep so
instead of 1, it could be 2, 3, ... but I got to
tell you that you can get lost if you overdo it.
Once the clip is open on the timeline, you can
edit it however you want.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">
- in the Media folder, once you have nested a
clip, the Nested clip will be located here<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">
- in the Media folder, the option to unnest the
clip is now called "EDL to clip" which results in
the nested clip being reverted to a clip and back
into the clip folder with only a name of "Clip
#". The nested clip is also still in the Media
folder.</div>
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- in the Media folder, you now have the new option
to "Open EDL" as described for clips above. But
in this case when you Open EDL and edit the
changes, those changes will take affect on any and
all occurrences of that nested clip on the
timeline.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">I
will make a demo later. There are Debian 9/10
static tars that contain this and other mods in
the Download / Documentation / File Storage at <a
href="http://cinelerra-gg.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">cinelerra-gg.org</a>.
Would be happy to make static tars for any other
usual distro/version if you would like to test
early.<br>
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