<div dir="ltr">Thanks Andrew, I don't know how to deactivate these buttons, and it's not my place to deactivate them either, I simply recommend from my experience to improve Cinelerra and make it interesting and without kamikaze functions.<br>I have Audacity 2.4.2 backport from Debian upstream running perfectly on Linux Mint 19.3, the only drawback is that the Calf effects interfaces are not graphically pretty, but I don't care, they work just as well with its retro-style interface from the late 90s.<br>I don't know what distribution you use, and I'm sure you know 1000 times more about this than I do, but just in case, the repositories that have allowed me to have Audacity 2.4.2 working perfectly are the ones on this website:<br><a href="https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/audacity">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/+archive/ubuntu/audacity</a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 23:51, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin (<<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">В сообщении от Tuesday 12 January 2021 00:57:48 Rafa Mar Multimedia en Gnu\Linux via Cin написал(а):<br>
> I have forwarded this valuable information to you, and I hope it is not too<br>
> late.<br>
> I understand that a programmer likes to play with the code and do wonders,<br>
> but you should consider that a video application is focused on people who<br>
> are NOT computer scientists and that their knowledge is very basic.<br>
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Well, unlike closed-source applications you also can disable (at least) buttons you do not like<br>
_locally_. Yes, such patch may create inconvience later on, if there will be changes in this area upstream.<br>
<br>
Sorry, I'm puzzled by another crash (Audacity 2.3.3 crash on launch, while 2.3.2 works ?! on my system),<br>
so I'm a bit distracted from CinelerraGG hacking right now ....<br>
<br>
<br>
> And <br>
> these options "cheat" rather than facilitate the work they make it<br>
> difficult. The audiovisual technicians must be given the simple tools. I do<br>
> not know of any application that I work with in my audiovisual professional<br>
> field that has the ability to step on a backup by user interaction.<br>
> To justify this I would tell you an anecdote that happened during the<br>
> production of "Finding Nemo" by Andrew Stanton at Pixar. But I think I bore<br>
> you with my long writings and I don't see an initiative to correct these<br>
> "traps" that Cinelerra contains. Rather the opposite, a strong attitude in<br>
> maintaining them.<br>
> Perhaps it could be done as in Kdenlive, Adobe etc.., which after a sudden<br>
> shutdown at the next start gives the option to recover the file that was<br>
> being worked with. But I usually go to practicality and if something is not<br>
> useful I eliminate it, I think that eliminating these options (also the<br>
> batch render option) is easier than making special menus for them or what I<br>
> just mentioned from kdenlive, which is usually what What applications do<br>
> after a sudden shutdown.<br>
> Anyway, thank you very much for the information, I know that some time ago<br>
> you mentioned this about the backup, but I did not remember very well what<br>
> it was like, and this user I suppose that when he wrote to me he would have<br>
> already done tests that they will have overwritten this .prev file<br>
> Greetings Phyllis.<br>
> <br>
> El lun, 11 ene 2021 a las 21:56, Phyllis Smith via Cin (<<br>
> <a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org" target="_blank">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>) escribió:<br>
> <br>
> > RafaMar:<br>
> ><br>
> >> gave the option "Save backup" instead of "Load backup" and the poor man<br>
> >> was desperate wondering if there was any way to get his work back,<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > from the Manual, section 4.4.3:<br>
> ><br>
> > *"There is still 1 more backup that may save you. If for some reason you<br>
> > forgot to use Load backup immediately when restarting or you did a Load<br>
> > with Replace current project in your current session, you have a second<br>
> > chance to use File → Load and select $HOME/.bcast5/backup.prev as long as<br>
> > you only loaded a different file and have performed no editing operations."*<br>
> ><br>
> > I just tested this to verify that it works as stated.<br>
> ><br>
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