I think you overreacted a bit. My patch does not break those modes, nor it add any mode visible in gui. <div><br></div><div>sorry for some reason I can't reply accurately in the middle of message.. </div><div>But I think quest about moving around pieces of audio AND pieces of video as group, and preventing them from unintentional de-synchronization still not very trivial in common case? </div><div><br></div><div>video you linked used 'protected' (disarmed) audio track. But in new gang modes this will not work, because their armed status ignored? <br><br>On Monday, August 9, 2021, Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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Ohoo my God!<br>
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AndrePaz wrote:<br>
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<pre>Moreover, if we
want to implement the standard behavior of Cinerella, so that an
unarmed track is never modified whether it is visible or not, we must
be sure that it is a separate function from the current Gang modes,
creating a new type of gang and explaining very well its function,
because the risk of confusion is great and the subject is already
complicated.
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AndreaPaz, it sound strange to me you are speaking so. <br>
If an User want the Cinelerra-GG standard behaviour for the
Armed/Disarmed track She/He can use GANG None!<br>
No separateor new function is needed because it is already there:
GANG None. And in the Manual_20210731 section 5.2.1 (Displaying
tracks: Ganged mode) is written very well:<br>
<b>1. Gang None: this is the default mode and is the traditional way
Cinelerra operates. If you never toggle the "Gang Tracks" button,
everything operates normally as it always has.</b><br>
For default a new user will find Cinelerra-GG in "Gang None" mode.
If an User press the GANG button (and other buttons) without reading
the Manual and without know what She/He am doing, I am sorry,
Cinelerra-GG is not for you. <br>
<br>
I use all the GANG modes for save space and other, without any
problem. May be my workflow is different from yours.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> what if someone need both arm/disarm functionality AND gang modes other than none, at the same time? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><br>
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AndreaPaz wrote:<br>
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<pre>Patches 3, 0004 and 0005 (I
haven't tried this one yet) should be part of a new Gang mode (Gang
arm? Gang Cin? Gang Std?).
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Andrew_R wrote:<br>
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<div>yes, and then try to play with new preference in
.bcast5/Cinelerra_rc:</div>
<div>ARMED_IN_GANG_MODE 0</div>
.... there is no propagation to preferences currently, but if you
or someone else thinks such 'mode 4' can be useful I'll monkey
around in code some more... </blockquote>
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I hope NO. Here, both Andrew_R and AndreaPaz, you are messing things
up (I hope the English traduction is right).<br>
Pleeease, don't touch things that works very well. Thank you!<br>
<br>
Andrew_R wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">may be it can be done.. you mean just gang
(link) mode between all edits on video + all edits on few
selectable audio tracks? so you can move them as group AND this
group become immune to media/clip insert and immune to its
components sliding around in this mode? or something else?</blockquote>
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It is already there! You can move more tracks together Arming that
tracks!<br>
You can see it at
<a href="http://www.visi1.org/cinelerra-gg_tutorials#ReArrangeTracksOrder" target="_blank">http://www.visi1.org/<wbr>cinelerra-gg_tutorials#<wbr>ReArrangeTracksOrder</a><br>
If you want to group the edits in different track it is written very
well in the Manula_20210731, section 5.5.4 (Grouping edits) and so
on. You can see that at
<a href="http://www.visi1.org/cinelerra-gg_tutorials#DragAndDropEditing" target="_blank">http://www.visi1.org/<wbr>cinelerra-gg_tutorials#<wbr>DragAndDropEditing</a> (old
video tutorial ).</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><br>
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I think that many of you read the Manual but many don't. An User who
want to use Cinelerra-GG or Cinelerra MUST READ the manua! The
community will help in the forum or other places. There is no point
in changing the code when it works fine! Or add a no sense function!<br>
<br>
Sorry for that long sentences. I think so. I think I'll get out of
this discussion.<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
IgorBeg <br>
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