<br><br>On Tuesday, September 28, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Excuse my smartphone typing:</div><div dir="auto">Hu</div>Andrew wrote:<div dir="auto"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">> AVerMedia CE310B (Chipset: Conexant CX23888)
> Requires kernel version 4.19.106, 5.4.22, 5.5.6, or later.
> from
> <a href="https://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/POWER9_Hardware_Compatibility_List/PCIe_Devices#Video_Capture_Cards" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.raptorcs.com/<wbr>wiki/POWER9_Hardware_<wbr>Compatibility_List/PCIe_<wbr>Devices#Video_Capture_Cards</a>
</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">> if you follow link to manufacturer's site it will say device support
uncompressed (4:2:2) capture..
> a bit more expensive (~100$) and requires pci-e slot... but cheap usb
devices tend to be cheap on all fronts.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Yes, AVerMedia CE310B looks very interesting as a dedicated SD capture card for analog composite and S-Video.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">It also looks to come at a more affordable price than the somewhat similar Blackmagic Decklink cards and SDK that I posted a request for on the Cin forum previously</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><a href="https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/it/forum/forum-hardware/declink-video-capture-and-playback-cards-and-software/" target="_blank">https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/<wbr>it/forum/forum-hardware/<wbr>declink-video-capture-and-<wbr>playback-cards-and-software/</a></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">I think there also is space for a PCIe on my workstations mobo, MSI Z170A/Skylake-i7.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">My current Leap 15.3 includes kernel 5.3.18. Optional my dualboot Tumbleweed currently looks to come with kernel 5.14.5/<a href="http://5.14.6." target="_blank">5.14.6.</a></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">But, there is always a but, so excuse my questions ;) </pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Reading the CE310B description, specs an datasheet, I noticed the following points:</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Q1) </pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Linux driver coming soon?</pre></div></div></blockquote><div>I think linux driver was already around, but specific card was not in mainline kernel:</div><div>---</div><div><br></div><div>media: cx23885: Add support for AVerMedia CE310B</div><div> </div><div> [ Upstream commit dc4cac67e13515835ed8081d510aa507aacb013b ]</div><div> </div><div> The AVerMedia CE310B is a simple composite + S-Video + stereo audio</div><div> capture card, and uses only the CX23888 to perform all of these</div><div> functions.</div><div> </div><div> I've tested both video inputs and the audio interface and confirmed that</div><div> they're all working. However, there are some issues:</div><div> </div><div> * Sometimes when I switch inputs the video signal turns black and can't</div><div> be recovered until the system is rebooted. I haven't been able to</div><div> determine the cause of this behavior, nor have I found a solution to</div><div> fix it or any workarounds other than rebooting.</div><div> * The card sometimes seems to have trouble syncing to the video signal,</div><div> and some of the VBI data appears as noise at the top of the frame, but</div><div> I assume that to be a result of my very noisy RF environment and the</div><div> card's unshielded input traces rather than a configuration issue.</div><div> </div><div><a href="https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v5.x/ChangeLog-5.5.6">https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v5.x/ChangeLog-5.5.6</a></div><div><br></div><div>---</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Q2)</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">SDK download useable for Linux?</pre></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not tried, by default their website blocked in my country, and VPN a bit sloooow.. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Q3)</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">With Linux V4L2 framework it supports "third party software". What about typical free video tools and software on Linux like VLC, OBS, ffmpeg and CGG?</pre></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>well, only practice may tell... sorry. (I will continue to look around for more info) </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Q4)</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">CE310B support uncompressed AVI or WMV format which are MS Windows propriary format. What about Linux options here to i.e pipe uncompressed 422 video via FLAC lossless compression ?</pre></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>FLAC is audio codec, but from what I saw ppl used it with huffyuv for example on Windows, so main output from drivr should be uncompressed</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Thanks,</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Terje</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </pre></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">man. 27. sep. 2021, 13:50 skrev Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">A previous article also using Easy Cap</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://gordonlesti.com/digitize-a-vhs-tape-with-ffmpeg-and-easycap-on-linux/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gordonlesti.com/<wbr>digitize-a-vhs-tape-with-<wbr>ffmpeg-and-easycap-on-linux/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Another similar usb video converter, "Cleantt" on Amazon, mentioned as Linux compatible </div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Converter-Capture-Support-Android/dp/B07QFVNSYJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=free+drive+usb+video+capture+card+with+support+for+linux&qid=1632603850&sr=8-5#immersive-view_1632603916288" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/<wbr>Digital-Converter-Capture-<wbr>Support-Android/dp/B07QFVNSYJ/<wbr>ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&<wbr>keywords=free+drive+usb+video+<wbr>capture+card+with+support+for+<wbr>linux&qid=1632603850&sr=8-5#<wbr>immersive-view_1632603916288</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And in another, more recent article Jancane A/D video usb adapter is rated as the best among 10 (linux not mentioned)</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://geekydeck.com/best-usb-analog-video-capture/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://geekydeck.com/best-<wbr>usb-analog-video-capture/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.audiointerfaces.net/jancane-usb-2-0-audio-video-converter-video-capture-card-digitizes-video-from-any-analog-source-including-vcr-vhs-dvd/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.audiointerfaces.<wbr>net/jancane-usb-2-0-audio-<wbr>video-converter-video-capture-<wbr>card-digitizes-video-from-any-<wbr>analog-source-including-vcr-<wbr>vhs-dvd/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But I haven't yet seen any a/d usb 2.0 adapter that documents something "better quality" record format than mpegs (possibly DV25) compression. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What I really want is some kind of 4:2:2 sampling rate documented, like i.e DV50 or other. Neither USB 3.0 adapters is found, which possibly is neccessary for 4:2:2 FLAC lossless compression?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Comments and other options or suggestions are welcome to clarify the latter :;</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Terje</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">søn. 26. sep. 2021, 00:32 skrev <<a href="mailto:mnieuw@zap.a2000.nl" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mnieuw@zap.a2000.nl</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yep, something like that, I think the make I used was Easycap.<br>
<br>
MatN<br>
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 23:26:27 +0200<br>
"Terje J. Hanssen via Cin" <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Something like this?<br>
> USB 2.0 Audio/Video Converter - Digitize and Edit Video from Any<br>
> Analog Source Including VCR, VHS, DVD<br>
> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJKSJZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_DYWFFDKH9ZJY6G1NTTKF" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/<wbr>B06XJKSJZ8/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_<wbr>navT_g_DYWFFDKH9ZJY6G1NTTKF</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> My tape sources are Hi8 and S-VHS, that is S-Video quality between<br>
> VHS and DV.<br>
> <br>
> (Also I backed up some music from my old reel tape recorder to "HiFi"<br>
> HQ VHS tapes 20 years ago). Og<br>
> And I got a working Sony Hi8 tape deck and a Panasonic S-VHS deck on<br>
> eBay a few years ago, as players beside my still working Sony Hi8<br>
> camcorder.<br>
> <br>
> Terje<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> lør. 25. sep. 2021, 21:37 skrev Terje J. Hanssen<br>
> <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> <br>
> > Nothing would be better than if this can be done via Cin-gg<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Transfer_VHS_DVD_Media_or_V.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/<wbr>download/CinelerraGG_Manual/<wbr>Transfer_VHS_DVD_Media_or_V.<wbr>html</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Terje<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > lør. 25. sep. 2021, 16:52 skrev Terje J. Hanssen<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a> <br>
> > >: <br>
> > <br>
> >> Although I have and have used some Black Magic external tools for<br>
> >> this, I'm also interested in simple and low cost options for Linux<br>
> >> workstations.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In a recent article the Augustin VGB100 usb2.0 video adaper and<br>
> >> VLC was used to record video<br>
> >> <a href="https://www.arsouyes.org/en/blog/2021/2021-05-17_Numerisation_VHS" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arsouyes.org/en/<wbr>blog/2021/2021-05-17_<wbr>Numerisation_VHS</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> Any experience here with similar A/D video adapters, quality and<br>
> >> applications for recording on Linux?.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Second I wonder if some lossless, compressed master video format is<br>
> >> available for better quality before final converting with typical<br>
> >> ffmeg?<br>
> >><br>
> >> And third, maybe a stupid question:<br>
> >> Is it possible to record just Audio with an A/D Video adapter,<br>
> >> which audio record format and what quality, compared with a pure<br>
> >> Audio adapter? And if so, can audio record applications like<br>
> >> Audiacity be used?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Terje<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> <br>
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