<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 21:28 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Den 03.11.2022 16:17, skrev Andrew
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                <div>Den 03.11.2022 01:42, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu
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                          2022 г., 03:34 Andrew Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                                  <div dir="auto">I think we can add
                                    some clarification
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                                      <h1>HDV on a Blu-ray Disc Without
                                        Re-encoding </h1>
                                      <p> An MTS file is a video file
                                        saved in the high-definition
                                        (HD) MPEG Transport Stream video
                                        format, commonly called AVCHD.
                                        It contains HD video compatible
                                        with Blu-ray disc format and is
                                        based on the MPEG-2 transport
                                        stream. MTS files are often used
                                        by Sony, Panasonic, Canon and
                                        other HD camcorders. Legal input
                                        for Video – MPEG1VIDEO,
                                        MPEG2VIDEO, H264; Audio – MP1,
                                        MP2, AC3, AC3PLUS, DTS, TRUHD. </p>
                                      <p>Note, mp2 and mp1 audio codecs
                                        are valid for transport stream
                                        itself but not as on-disk format
                                        for Blu-Rays.</p>
                                      <p>In this case you still can save
                                        original video by using ffmpeg's
                                        switches</p>
                                      <p> -c:v copy -c:a ac3 , while
                                        outputting into another temporal
                                        ts container.</p>
                                      <p>{waiting for Terje's results on
                                        pcm_bluray case}</p>
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                                      <p>I think all m2ts files you used
                                        for testing were h264/aac (or
                                        ac3), not from-camcoder HDVs
                                        with mpeg2 video/mp2 audio. </p>
                                      <p>you can try HDV-in-mov from
                                        this folder as ffmpeg test file,
                                        I think</p>
                                      <p><a href="http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/mov/FCP/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
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                            <div dir="auto">oh, this is not mp2 audio
                              but pcm audio. And ..not exactly kind of
                              pcm used on blurays!</div>
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                            <div dir="auto">so this line work, note
                              mpegts_m2ts_mode switch for enabling more
                              bluray like output, without it ffmpeg will
                              mux audio into private stream -  good luck
                              getting it back!</div>
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                            <div dir="auto">ffmpeg -i  HDV_1080i50.mov
                              -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray 
                              -mpegts_m2ts_mode 1 hdv.mts<br>
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                            <div dir="auto">then tsmuxer recognizes mts
                              file as below:</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">~/tsMuxer $ tsmuxer
                                hdv.mts</div>
                              <div dir="auto">tsMuxeR version
                                2.6.16-dev. <a href="http://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer</a></div>
                              <div dir="auto">Track ID:    4113         
                                                                       
                                     Stream type: MPEG-2</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream ID:   V_MPEG-2</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream info: Profile:
                                Main@6. Resolution: 1440:1080i. Frame
                                rate: 25</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream lang:</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">Track ID:    4352</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream type: LPCM</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream ID:   A_LPCM</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream info: Bitrate:
                                1536Kbps  Sample Rate: 48KHz  Channels:
                                2  Bits per sample: 16bit</div>
                              <div dir="auto">Stream lang: eng</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">Duration: 00:00:08.000</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">====</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">I wonder if you can cp
                                this file few times and then cat them
                                back together for simulating longer
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                    <div dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/OpenShot/openshot-qt/issues/3428#top" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/OpenShot/openshot-qt/issues/3428#top</a><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">this one contain real very short hdv
                      sample with mp2 sound</div>
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                I can try to dig and test further into this matter later
                this month - or possibly more realistic next month. <br>
                Currently I spend some holiday weeks on Gran Canaria 😎<br>
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        <div dir="auto">have good times (even without camcoder!)</div>
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                Some thoughts in advance:<br>
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                Would it possibly be better/clear to differ/split
                between the formats, HDV video on tape (M2T container)
                and the successor H264/AVC(HD) video on disk?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">sure, right now it confusing.</div>
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                Possibly you still have the probably little longer HDV
                1080i sample file, "20081103140154.m2t" we used for the
                HDV format patch here<br>
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                And if  Phyllis has access to a Blu-ray disc burner and
                BD hw player, testing could possibly start sooner(?)<br>
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                                      <p> For creating a blu-ray disc,
                                        if you have HDV MPEG-2 media
                                        that is in blu-ray format, you
                                        can save the original quality of
                                        your work, rather than rendering
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                                      <p>{I hope Terje will let us know
                                        if bdwrite still works with
                                        bluray pcm audio as produced by
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    I forgot one question:<br>
    Will it be possible and how to access and use ffmpeg-5.x included
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    The latest openSUSE Leap 15.4 distro I use, has so far no official
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    I have add-installed ffmpeg-5.1.2 from OBS (Open Build Service), but
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