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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">чт, 3 нояб. 2022 г., 21:28
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<div dir="auto">I think we
can add some
clarification
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<h1>HDV on a Blu-ray
Disc Without
Re-encoding </h1>
<p> An MTS file is a
video file saved in
the high-definition
(HD) MPEG Transport
Stream video format,
commonly called
AVCHD. It contains
HD video compatible
with Blu-ray disc
format and is based
on the MPEG-2
transport stream.
MTS files are often
used by Sony,
Panasonic, Canon and
other HD camcorders.
Legal input for
Video – MPEG1VIDEO,
MPEG2VIDEO, H264;
Audio – MP1, MP2,
AC3, AC3PLUS, DTS,
TRUHD. </p>
<p>Note, mp2 and mp1
audio codecs are
valid for transport
stream itself but
not as on-disk
format for Blu-Rays.</p>
<p>In this case you
still can save
original video by
using ffmpeg's
switches</p>
<p> -c:v copy -c:a ac3
, while outputting
into another
temporal ts
container.</p>
<p>{waiting for
Terje's results on
pcm_bluray case}</p>
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<p>I think all m2ts
files you used for
testing were
h264/aac (or ac3),
not from-camcoder
HDVs with mpeg2
video/mp2 audio. </p>
<p>you can try
HDV-in-mov from this
folder as ffmpeg
test file, I think</p>
<p><a
href="http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/mov/FCP/"
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<div dir="auto">oh, this is not
mp2 audio but pcm audio. And
..not exactly kind of pcm used
on blurays!</div>
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<div dir="auto">so this line
work, note mpegts_m2ts_mode
switch for enabling more
bluray like output, without it
ffmpeg will mux audio into
private stream - good luck
getting it back!</div>
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<div dir="auto">ffmpeg -i
HDV_1080i50.mov -c:v copy -c:a
pcm_bluray -mpegts_m2ts_mode
1 hdv.mts<br>
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<div dir="auto">then tsmuxer
recognizes mts file as below:</div>
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<div dir="auto">~/tsMuxer $
tsmuxer hdv.mts</div>
<div dir="auto">tsMuxeR
version 2.6.16-dev. <a
href="http://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer
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<div dir="auto">Track ID:
4113
Stream type: MPEG-2</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream ID:
V_MPEG-2</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream info:
Profile: Main@6. Resolution:
1440:1080i. Frame rate: 25</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream lang:</div>
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</div>
<div dir="auto">Track ID:
4352</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream type:
LPCM</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream ID:
A_LPCM</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream info:
Bitrate: 1536Kbps Sample
Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16bit</div>
<div dir="auto">Stream lang:
eng</div>
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</div>
<div dir="auto">Duration:
00:00:08.000</div>
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<div dir="auto">====</div>
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<div dir="auto">I wonder if
you can cp this file few
times and then cat them back
together for simulating
longer video ) ?</div>
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<div dir="auto"><a
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<div dir="auto">this one contain real
very short hdv sample with mp2 sound</div>
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<div dir="auto"><a
href="http://twenkid.com/os/3.m2t"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
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I can try to dig and test further into this
matter later this month - or possibly more
realistic next month. <br>
Currently I spend some holiday weeks on Gran
Canaria 😎<br>
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<div dir="auto">have good times (even without
camcoder!)</div>
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Some thoughts in advance:<br>
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Would it possibly be better/clear to
differ/split between the formats, HDV video
on tape (M2T container) and the successor
H264/AVC(HD) video on disk?<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV"
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<div dir="auto">sure, right now it confusing.</div>
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Possibly you still have the probably little
longer HDV 1080i sample file,
"20081103140154.m2t" we used for the HDV
format patch here<br>
<a
href="https://www.mail-archive.com/cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org/msg02048.html"
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<div dir="auto">yeah, will call my friend 'find' )</div>
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<div dir="auto">thanks!</div>
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And if Phyllis has access to a Blu-ray disc
burner and BD hw player, testing could
possibly start sooner(?)<br>
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<p>----</p>
<p> For creating a
blu-ray disc, if you
have HDV MPEG-2
media that is in
blu-ray format, you
can save the
original quality of
your work, rather
than rendering it to
another format. </p>
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<p>{I hope Terje will
let us know if
bdwrite still works
with bluray pcm
audio as produced by
ffmpeg 5.1+}</p>
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I forgot one question:<br>
Will it be possible and how to access and use ffmpeg-5.x
included with Cin-GG in a terminal as usual?<br>
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<div dir="auto">if you compile your own cinelerra ffmpeg binary
will be in thirdparty/ffmpeg-5.1/ffmpeg </div>
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<div dir="auto">we do not install this binary because cin does
all work via library interface.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So I think you can do single-user build and then
play with compiled binary and may be even use it in shell
scripting as described in</div>
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The latest openSUSE Leap 15.4 distro I use, has so far
no official ffmpeg-5.x package or codec enabled from
Packman.<br>
I have add-installed ffmpeg-5.1.2 from OBS (Open Build
Service), but don't know if it works. <br>
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A first test step with add-installed Experimental
ffmpeg-5-5.1.2-lp154.35.1.x86_64.rpm for Leap 15.4 from<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ffmpeg-5&project=multimedia%3Alibs">https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ffmpeg-5&project=multimedia%3Alibs</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia%3Alibs/ffmpeg-5">https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/multimedia%3Alibs/ffmpeg-5</a><br>
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addrepo
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zypper refresh<br>
zypper install ffmpeg-5<br>
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ffmpeg -i 3.m2t -c:v copy -c:a pcm_bluray output.ts<br>
ffmpeg version 5.1.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2022 the FFmpeg developers<br>
built with gcc 7 (SUSE Linux)<br>
-------------<br>
Input #0, mpegts, from '3.m2t':<br>
Duration: 00:00:03.10, start: 1.400000, bitrate: 21633 kb/s<br>
Program 1<br>
Metadata:<br>
service_name : Service01<br>
service_provider: FFmpeg<br>
Stream #0:0[0x100]: Video: mpeg2video (Main) ([2][0][0][0] /
0x0002), yuv420p(tv, bt709, top first), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR
16:9], 25000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn<br>
Side data:<br>
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 25000000/0/0 buffer size: 7340032
vbv_delay: N/A<br>
Stream #0:1[0x101]: Audio: mp2 ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 48000
Hz, stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s<br>
Unknown encoder 'pcm_bluray'<br>
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<br>
Obviously pcm_bluray encoder is not enabled - only the decoder is
enabled. Then it will be difficult ...<br>
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ffmpeg -codecs -hide_banner | egrep "pcm|pcm_bluray"<br>
<br>
..AIL. adpcm_4xm ADPCM 4X Movie<br>
..AIL. adpcm_adx SEGA CRI ADX ADPCM<br>
..AIL. adpcm_afc ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube AFC<br>
..AIL. adpcm_agm ADPCM AmuseGraphics Movie AGM<br>
..AIL. adpcm_aica ADPCM Yamaha AICA<br>
..AIL. adpcm_argo ADPCM Argonaut Games<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ct ADPCM Creative Technology<br>
..AIL. adpcm_dtk ADPCM Nintendo Gamecube DTK<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ea ADPCM Electronic Arts<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ea_maxis_xa ADPCM Electronic Arts Maxis CDROM XA<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ea_r1 ADPCM Electronic Arts R1<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ea_r2 ADPCM Electronic Arts R2<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ea_r3 ADPCM Electronic Arts R3<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ea_xas ADPCM Electronic Arts XAS<br>
..AIL. adpcm_g722 G.722 ADPCM<br>
..AIL. adpcm_g726 G.726 ADPCM<br>
..AIL. adpcm_g726le G.726 ADPCM little-endian<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_acorn ADPCM IMA Acorn Replay<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_alp ADPCM IMA High Voltage Software ALP<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_amv ADPCM IMA AMV<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_apc ADPCM IMA CRYO APC<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_apm ADPCM IMA Ubisoft APM<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_cunning ADPCM IMA Cunning Developments<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_dat4 ADPCM IMA Eurocom DAT4<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk3 ADPCM IMA Duck DK3<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_dk4 ADPCM IMA Duck DK4<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_eacs ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts EACS<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ea_sead ADPCM IMA Electronic Arts SEAD<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_iss ADPCM IMA Funcom ISS<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_moflex ADPCM IMA MobiClip MOFLEX<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_mtf ADPCM IMA Capcom's MT Framework<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_oki ADPCM IMA Dialogic OKI<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_qt ADPCM IMA QuickTime<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_rad ADPCM IMA Radical<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_smjpeg ADPCM IMA Loki SDL MJPEG<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ssi ADPCM IMA Simon & Schuster
Interactive<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_wav ADPCM IMA WAV<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ima_ws ADPCM IMA Westwood<br>
..AIL. adpcm_ms ADPCM Microsoft<br>
..AIL. adpcm_mtaf ADPCM MTAF<br>
..AIL. adpcm_psx ADPCM Playstation<br>
..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_2 ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2-bit<br>
..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_3 ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 2.6-bit<br>
..AIL. adpcm_sbpro_4 ADPCM Sound Blaster Pro 4-bit<br>
..AIL. adpcm_swf ADPCM Shockwave Flash<br>
..AIL. adpcm_thp ADPCM Nintendo THP<br>
..AIL. adpcm_thp_le ADPCM Nintendo THP (Little-Endian)<br>
..AIL. adpcm_vima LucasArts VIMA audio<br>
..AIL. adpcm_xa ADPCM CDROM XA<br>
..AIL. adpcm_yamaha ADPCM Yamaha<br>
..AIL. adpcm_zork ADPCM Zork<br>
..AIL. derf_dpcm DPCM Xilam DERF<br>
..AIL. gremlin_dpcm DPCM Gremlin<br>
..AIL. interplay_dpcm DPCM Interplay<br>
DEAIL. pcm_alaw PCM A-law / G.711 A-law<br>
D.AI.S pcm_bluray PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian
for Blu-ray media<br>
D.AI.S pcm_dvd PCM signed 20|24-bit big-endian<br>
..AI.S pcm_f16le PCM 16.8 floating point little-endian<br>
..AI.S pcm_f24le PCM 24.0 floating point little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_f32be PCM 32-bit floating point big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_f32le PCM 32-bit floating point
little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_f64be PCM 64-bit floating point big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_f64le PCM 64-bit floating point
little-endian<br>
..AI.S pcm_lxf PCM signed 20-bit little-endian
planar<br>
DEAIL. pcm_mulaw PCM mu-law / G.711 mu-law<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s16be PCM signed 16-bit big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s16be_planar PCM signed 16-bit big-endian planar<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s16le PCM signed 16-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s16le_planar PCM signed 16-bit little-endian
planar<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s24be PCM signed 24-bit big-endian<br>
..AI.S pcm_s24daud PCM D-Cinema audio signed 24-bit<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s24le PCM signed 24-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s24le_planar PCM signed 24-bit little-endian
planar<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s32be PCM signed 32-bit big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s32le PCM signed 32-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s32le_planar PCM signed 32-bit little-endian
planar<br>
..AI.S pcm_s64be PCM signed 64-bit big-endian<br>
..AI.S pcm_s64le PCM signed 64-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s8 PCM signed 8-bit<br>
DEAI.S pcm_s8_planar PCM signed 8-bit planar<br>
..AI.S pcm_sga PCM SGA<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u16be PCM unsigned 16-bit big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u16le PCM unsigned 16-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u24be PCM unsigned 24-bit big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u24le PCM unsigned 24-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u32be PCM unsigned 32-bit big-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u32le PCM unsigned 32-bit little-endian<br>
DEAI.S pcm_u8 PCM unsigned 8-bit<br>
..AIL. pcm_vidc PCM Archimedes VIDC<br>
..AIL. roq_dpcm DPCM id RoQ<br>
..AIL. sdx2_dpcm DPCM Squareroot-Delta-Exact<br>
..AIL. sol_dpcm DPCM Sol<br>
..AIL. xan_dpcm DPCM Xan</font><br>
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