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    <div>Den 10.11.2022 14:56, skrev Andrew
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                <div>Den 10.11.2022 01:09, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                            <div>Den 08.11.2022 20:30, skrev Andrew
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                                                        <div dir="auto">unfortunately
                                                          they all seems
                                                          to be 25 fps
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                                                <div dir="auto">also see</div>
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                                                <div dir="auto">click on
                                                  details look for mpeg2
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                                        <div dir="auto">oh, look 29.97!</div>
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                                        <div dir="auto">11 gb in full
                                          but we hopefully need only
                                          part of it for testing ....</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">also this</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">like <a href="https://archive.org/download/snowplow14/B01C013.mpg" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://archive.org/download/snowplow14/B01C013.mpg</a></div>
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                                <div dir="auto">they also 29.97</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">thing is, while bdwrite
                                  does not choke on those - resulting 
                                  udfs displays errors if I not
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                            <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">Just
                              to mentione that I downloaded the latter
                              file, B01C013.mpg<br>
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                              and checked its video format with<br>
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                              mediainfo reported<br>
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                              : ts m2t m2s m4t m4s tmf ts tp trp ty</font></div>
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                    <div dir="auto">yeah, extension IS wrong</div>
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                              ffmpeg -v error -i B01C013.mpg -f null -
                              2>error.log<br>
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                              cat error.log<br>
                              [mpeg2video @ 0x55989aae8500] Invalid
                              frame dimensions 0x0.<br>
                                  Last message repeated 12 times<br>
                              [mpeg2video @ 0x55989ad2c980] 00
                              motion_type at 11 13<br>
                              [mpeg2video @ 0x55989ad2c980] Warning MVs
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                    <div dir="auto">I think those are there because file
                      was force-cut by byte boundary, not by
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                    <div dir="auto">you can try some other files if you
                      have bandwidth to burn :)</div>
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                              I don't know if the above imply anything,
                              but the small "3.m2t" file had none such
                              error messages ......?<br>
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                About the same errors for  another FX1_01.mpg<br>
                FileExtension_Invalid<br>
                [mpeg2video @ 0x5598692b9500] Invalid frame dimensions
                0x0.<br>
                    Last message repeated 2 times<br>
                [mpeg2video @ 0x55986953ccc0] invalid cbp -1 at 74 53<br>
                [mpeg2video @ 0x55986953ccc0] Warning MVs not available<br>
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                The first I would expect the first is due to change from
                M2T transport stream to internet MPG program stream(?)<br>
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        <div dir="auto">well, I hoped internet archive uploader will not
          change files just because, but who knows, may be it changed
          more than extension ....</div>
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    On of previous discussion of some interest<br>
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                By the way, when I'm home again I have my own true HDV
                1080i.m2t from FX7E to test on, beside the downloaded
                2008xxx.m2t<br>
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                And next month CinGG app release will include the
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        <div dir="auto">I am not sure my idea is good, considering I do
          not know how to detect those pulldown flags ... If your camera
          has this 'film' mode it will be interesting to get sample ....</div>
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    No, my HDR-FX7E uses consumer standard 1080i at 50i (25 fps) or HDV2
    (Sony/Canon). The other type was 720p or HDV1 (JVC)<br>
    The first HDV 1080i camcorder to implement recording progressive
    video within an interlaced stream,was the Sony HVR-V1 <br>
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    I certainly do not understand the problem regarding bdwrite. If
    automatic detection of interlaced video cannot be recognized i.e via
    ffmpeg, possibly the user can tell it the same way NLE's
    pre-requisit.</div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">well, I'll try to add manual switches to bdwrite then.</div><div dir="auto">Plain interlace probably not a problem, but this weird patterned framerate conversion might be ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> I.e from a previous Premiere Pro tutorial:   When
    working in Premiere Pro, we highly recommend that you use the
    sequence settings that match the settings of the footage you are
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    And also noticed from Wikipedia (not only in the CinGG manual):<br>
    For consumer use, HDV-sourced video can be delivered on a Blu-ray
    Disc without re-encoding, can be converted to AVCHD and delivered on
    an AVCHD disc, or can be downconverted to DVD-Video.
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