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    <div>Den 10.11.2022 20:20, skrev Andrew
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                <div>Den 10.11.2022 14:56, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                          2022 г., 14:18 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                            <div>Den 10.11.2022 01:09, skrev Andrew
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                                      10 нояб. 2022 г., 00:17 Terje J.
                                      Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                                        <div>Den 08.11.2022 20:30, skrev
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                                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт,
                                                  8 нояб. 2022 г., 22:07
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                                                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 8 нояб. 2022 г., 21:50 Andrew Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><a href="https://archive.org/details/jvc_hd7" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
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                                                          <div dir="auto">unfortunately
                                                          they all seems
                                                          to be 25 fps
                                                          ...</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">also
                                                          see</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><a href="https://archive.org/details/hdv01" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                                          noreferrer
                                                          noreferrer
                                                          noreferrer
                                                          noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://archive.org/details/hdv01</a><br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">click
                                                          on details
                                                          look for mpeg2
                                                          files</div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">oh,
                                                      look 29.97!</div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto"><a href="https://archive.org/details/pioneerpower10" rel="noreferrer
                                                        noreferrer
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                                                        noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://archive.org/details/pioneerpower10</a><br>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">11
                                                      gb in full but we
                                                      hopefully need
                                                      only part of it
                                                      for testing ....</div>
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                                            <div dir="auto">also this</div>
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                                            <div dir="auto"><a href="https://archive.org/details/snowplow14" rel="noreferrer
                                                noreferrer noreferrer
                                                noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://archive.org/details/snowplow14</a><br>
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                                            <div dir="auto">like <a href="https://archive.org/download/snowplow14/B01C013.mpg" rel="noreferrer
                                                noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://archive.org/download/snowplow14/B01C013.mpg</a></div>
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                                            <div dir="auto">they also
                                              29.97</div>
                                            <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                            <div dir="auto">thing is,
                                              while bdwrite does not
                                              choke on those -
                                              resulting  udfs displays
                                              errors if I not transcode
                                              audio first ... (</div>
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                                        <font face="Courier New,
                                          Courier, monospace">Just to
                                          mentione that I downloaded the
                                          latter file, B01C013.mpg<br>
                                          <br>
                                          and checked its video format
                                          with<br>
                                          <br>
                                          mediainfo reported<br>
 FileExtension_Invalid                    : ts m2t m2s m4t m4s tmf ts tp
                                          trp ty</font></div>
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                                <div dir="auto">yeah, extension IS wrong</div>
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                                      <div dir="auto"><font face="Courier New, Courier,
                                          monospace"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          ffmpeg -v error -i B01C013.mpg
                                          -f null - 2>error.log<br>
                                          and <br>
                                          cat error.log<br>
                                          [mpeg2video @ 0x55989aae8500]
                                          Invalid frame dimensions 0x0.<br>
                                              Last message repeated 12
                                          times<br>
                                          [mpeg2video @ 0x55989ad2c980]
                                          00 motion_type at 11 13<br>
                                          [mpeg2video @ 0x55989ad2c980]
                                          Warning MVs not available</font></div>
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                                <div dir="auto">I think those are there
                                  because file was force-cut by byte
                                  boundary, not by frame/content
                                  boundary?</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">you can try some other
                                  files if you have bandwidth to burn :)</div>
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                                          monospace"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          I don't know if the above
                                          imply anything, but the small
                                          "3.m2t" file had none such
                                          error messages ......?<br>
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                                        </font><br>
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                            About the same errors for  another
                            FX1_01.mpg<br>
                            FileExtension_Invalid<br>
                            [mpeg2video @ 0x5598692b9500] Invalid frame
                            dimensions 0x0.<br>
                                Last message repeated 2 times<br>
                            [mpeg2video @ 0x55986953ccc0] invalid cbp -1
                            at 74 53<br>
                            [mpeg2video @ 0x55986953ccc0] Warning MVs
                            not available<br>
                            <br>
                            The first I would expect the first is due to
                            change from M2T transport stream to internet
                            MPG program stream(?)<br>
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                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">well, I hoped internet archive
                      uploader will not change files just because, but
                      who knows, may be it changed more than extension
                      ....</div>
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                <br>
                On of previous discussion of some interest<br>
                <a href="https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/general-hd-720-1080-acquisition/96546-difference-between-m2t-mpg.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/general-hd-720-1080-acquisition/96546-difference-between-m2t-mpg.html</a><br>
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                            By the way, when I'm home again I have my
                            own true HDV 1080i.m2t from FX7E to test on,
                            beside the downloaded 2008xxx.m2t<br>
                            <br>
                            And next month CinGG app release will
                            include the interlace patched bdwrite,
                            right?<br>
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                    <div dir="auto">I am not sure my idea is good,
                      considering I do not know how to detect those
                      pulldown flags ... If your camera has this 'film'
                      mode it will be interesting to get sample ....</div>
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                <br>
                No, my HDR-FX7E uses consumer standard 1080i at 50i (25
                fps) or HDV2 (Sony/Canon). The other type was 720p or
                HDV1 (JVC)<br>
                The first HDV 1080i camcorder to implement recording
                progressive video within an interlaced stream,was the
                Sony HVR-V1 <br>
                <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#HDV_1080i" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#HDV_1080i</a><br>
                <br>
                I certainly do not understand the problem regarding
                bdwrite. If automatic detection of interlaced video
                cannot be recognized i.e via ffmpeg, possibly the user
                can tell it the same way NLE's pre-requisit.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">well, I'll try to add manual switches to bdwrite
          then.</div>
        <div dir="auto">Plain interlace probably not a problem, but this
          weird patterned framerate conversion might be ...</div>
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              <div> I.e from a previous Premiere Pro tutorial:   When
                working in Premiere Pro, we highly recommend that you
                use the sequence settings that match the settings of the
                footage you are working with.
                <a href="https://www.agitraining.com/adobe/premiere-pro/tutorials/understanding-digital-video-in-premiere-pro" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.agitraining.com/adobe/premiere-pro/tutorials/understanding-digital-video-in-premiere-pro</a><br>
                <br>
                And also noticed from Wikipedia (not only in the CinGG
                manual):<br>
                For consumer use, HDV-sourced video can be delivered on
                a Blu-ray Disc without re-encoding, can be converted to
                AVCHD and delivered on an AVCHD disc, or can be
                downconverted to DVD-Video. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Distributing" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Distributing</a><br>
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    <br>
    "Finally home again", just to discover that I have not 'bdwrite'
    available on my workstations upgraded with the latest 31. Oct 2022
    CinGG appimages.<br>
    Therefore I wonder if CinGG Appimage not provide and make it
    possible to run bdwrite from command line (similar like no ffmpeg)
    without a single user build?<br></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think you can unpack/mount appimages .</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://docs.appimage.org/user-guide/run-appimages.html#mount-an-appimage">https://docs.appimage.org/user-guide/run-appimages.html#mount-an-appimage</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">then you hopefully will find bdwrite inside ....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">or slightly down this question  documentation said you can extract content of appimage into directory. So, if bdwrite actually there you can run it from there or copy it to some place</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
    <br>
    If this is the case, the recent testing I have done with bdwrite on
    my ultrabook, has unhappily been with a 2 year old and possibly
    outdated version from the last Cin 5.1 Package version dated October
    31, 2020 for openSUSE. In lack of other ways to verify or querry
    bdwrite's version:<br>
    <br>
    # which bdwrite<br>
    /usr/bin/bdwrite<br>
    <br>
    # stat /usr/bin/bdwrite<br>
      File: /usr/bin/bdwrite<br>
      Size: 41934488      Blocks: 81904      IO Block: 4096   regular
    file<br>
    Device: 10305h/66309d    Inode: 3703700     Links: 1<br>
    Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/   
    root)<br>
    Access: 2022-11-12 13:46:45.544144893 +0100<br>
    Modify: 2020-10-31 17:50:23.000000000 +0100<br>
    Change: 2021-03-13 17:44:43.179917682 +0100<br>
     Birth: 2021-03-13 17:44:42.011917748 +0100<br>
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