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<div
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they all seems
to be 25 fps
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<div
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on details
look for mpeg2
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<div dir="auto">oh,
look 29.97!</div>
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<div dir="auto">11
gb in full but we
hopefully need
only part of it
for testing ....</div>
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<div dir="auto">also this</div>
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<div dir="auto">like <a
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<div dir="auto">they also
29.97</div>
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<div dir="auto">thing is,
while bdwrite does not
choke on those -
resulting udfs displays
errors if I not transcode
audio first ... (</div>
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<font face="Courier New,
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mentione that I downloaded the
latter file, B01C013.mpg<br>
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and checked its video format
with<br>
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mediainfo reported<br>
FileExtension_Invalid : ts m2t m2s m4t m4s tmf ts tp
trp ty</font></div>
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<div dir="auto">yeah, extension IS wrong</div>
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ffmpeg -v error -i B01C013.mpg
-f null - 2>error.log<br>
and <br>
cat error.log<br>
[mpeg2video @ 0x55989aae8500]
Invalid frame dimensions 0x0.<br>
Last message repeated 12
times<br>
[mpeg2video @ 0x55989ad2c980]
00 motion_type at 11 13<br>
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<div dir="auto">I think those are there
because file was force-cut by byte
boundary, not by frame/content
boundary?</div>
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<div dir="auto">you can try some other
files if you have bandwidth to burn :)</div>
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I don't know if the above
imply anything, but the small
"3.m2t" file had none such
error messages ......?<br>
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About the same errors for another
FX1_01.mpg<br>
FileExtension_Invalid<br>
[mpeg2video @ 0x5598692b9500] Invalid frame
dimensions 0x0.<br>
Last message repeated 2 times<br>
[mpeg2video @ 0x55986953ccc0] invalid cbp -1
at 74 53<br>
[mpeg2video @ 0x55986953ccc0] Warning MVs
not available<br>
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The first I would expect the first is due to
change from M2T transport stream to internet
MPG program stream(?)<br>
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<div dir="auto">well, I hoped internet archive
uploader will not change files just because, but
who knows, may be it changed more than extension
....</div>
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On of previous discussion of some interest<br>
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By the way, when I'm home again I have my
own true HDV 1080i.m2t from FX7E to test on,
beside the downloaded 2008xxx.m2t<br>
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And next month CinGG app release will
include the interlace patched bdwrite,
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<div dir="auto">I am not sure my idea is good,
considering I do not know how to detect those
pulldown flags ... If your camera has this 'film'
mode it will be interesting to get sample ....</div>
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No, my HDR-FX7E uses consumer standard 1080i at 50i (25
fps) or HDV2 (Sony/Canon). The other type was 720p or
HDV1 (JVC)<br>
The first HDV 1080i camcorder to implement recording
progressive video within an interlaced stream,was the
Sony HVR-V1 <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#HDV_1080i"
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I certainly do not understand the problem regarding
bdwrite. If automatic detection of interlaced video
cannot be recognized i.e via ffmpeg, possibly the user
can tell it the same way NLE's pre-requisit.</div>
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<div dir="auto">well, I'll try to add manual switches to bdwrite
then.</div>
<div dir="auto">Plain interlace probably not a problem, but this
weird patterned framerate conversion might be ...</div>
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<div> I.e from a previous Premiere Pro tutorial: When
working in Premiere Pro, we highly recommend that you
use the sequence settings that match the settings of the
footage you are working with.
<a
href="https://www.agitraining.com/adobe/premiere-pro/tutorials/understanding-digital-video-in-premiere-pro"
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And also noticed from Wikipedia (not only in the CinGG
manual):<br>
For consumer use, HDV-sourced video can be delivered on
a Blu-ray Disc without re-encoding, can be converted to
AVCHD and delivered on an AVCHD disc, or can be
downconverted to DVD-Video. <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV#Distributing"
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"Finally home again", just to discover that I have not 'bdwrite'
available on my workstations upgraded with the latest 31. Oct 2022
CinGG appimages.<br>
Therefore I wonder if CinGG Appimage not provide and make it
possible to run bdwrite from command line (similar like no ffmpeg)
without a single user build?<br>
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If this is the case, the recent testing I have done with bdwrite on
my ultrabook, has unhappily been with a 2 year old and possibly
outdated version from the last Cin 5.1 Package version dated October
31, 2020 for openSUSE. In lack of other ways to verify or querry
bdwrite's version:<br>
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# which bdwrite<br>
/usr/bin/bdwrite<br>
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# stat /usr/bin/bdwrite<br>
File: /usr/bin/bdwrite<br>
Size: 41934488 Blocks: 81904 IO Block: 4096 regular
file<br>
Device: 10305h/66309d Inode: 3703700 Links: 1<br>
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/
root)<br>
Access: 2022-11-12 13:46:45.544144893 +0100<br>
Modify: 2020-10-31 17:50:23.000000000 +0100<br>
Change: 2021-03-13 17:44:43.179917682 +0100<br>
Birth: 2021-03-13 17:44:42.011917748 +0100<br>
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