<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">They were mad because they were NOT on the list; and they were mad because someone else WAS and they did not think they should be. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> Adam Williams name is all over the place and that is what is the most important.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">- FFmpeg is such a HUGE part of CinGG now that how could we ever list those Authors? and honestly that is the main reason CinGG is functioning so well.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">- And what about the Authors of the LV2 Calf plugins? and all of the libraries being used?<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 11:18 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 2 янв. 2023 г., 21:13 Phyllis Smith <<a href="mailto:phylsmith2017@gmail.com" target="_blank">phylsmith2017@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Although it would be nice to have, it is just too hard to get correct, difficult to maintain, and <u>leads to people getting mad</u>. </div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Were they mad because their name was on list or because it was absent? Today development slowed much, so may be we have time to sort this out without panicking .....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">This is what has happened in the past and why it was eliminated. But maybe in the future if another full time developer starts working on all of the Bug Tracker issues, this can be changed. <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 10:48 AM Andrew Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Because cinelerra-gg is merge of cin hv, cin-cv, various recent contributors on this list and Bill's own work I thought having AUTHORS file in sorce tree root will be good idea.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Right now Cin-CV AUTHORS look like this (some emails outdated)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">hv=Adam Williams <<a href="mailto:broadcast@earthling.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">broadcast@earthling.net</a>></div><div dir="auto">j6t=Johannes Sixt <<a href="mailto:johannes.sixt@telecom.at" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">johannes.sixt@telecom.at</a>></div><div dir="auto">minmax=Andraz Tori <<a href="mailto:Andraz.tori1@guest.arnes.si" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Andraz.tori1@guest.arnes.si</a>> herman=Herman Robak <<a href="mailto:herman@skolelinux.no" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">herman@skolelinux.no</a>></div><div dir="auto">baver=Richard Baverstock <<a href="mailto:baver@thebeever.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">baver@thebeever.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">einar=Einar Runkaru <<a href="mailto:einarry@smail.ee" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">einarry@smail.ee</a>> pere=Petter Reinholdtsen <<a href="mailto:pere@hungry.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pere@hungry.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">tfheen=Tollef Fog Heen <<a href="mailto:tollef@add.no" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tollef@add.no</a>> andreask=Andreas Kielb <<a href="mailto:andreaskielb@web.de" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">andreaskielb@web.de</a>></div><div dir="auto">theraz=Tyler Geddes <<a href="mailto:tgeddes@wgeddes.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tgeddes@wgeddes.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">dyce=Gergely Erdelyi <<a href="mailto:dyce@rovidzar.hu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">dyce@rovidzar.hu</a>></div><div dir="auto">dreamlx=David Arendt <<a href="mailto:admin@prnet.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">admin@prnet.org</a>></div><div dir="auto">ga=Gustavo Iniguez <<a href="mailto:ga@kutxa.homeunix.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ga@kutxa.homeunix.org</a>></div><div dir="auto">memenk=Michael Eric Menk <<a href="mailto:meklev@osys.grm.hia.no" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">meklev@osys.grm.hia.no</a>></div><div dir="auto">benjif=Benjamin Flaming <<a href="mailto:cinelerra@solobanjo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">cinelerra@solobanjo.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">cobra=Kevin Brosius <<a href="mailto:cobra@compuserve.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">cobra@compuserve.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">taraba=Mark Taraba <<a href="mailto:m_taraba@yahoo.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">m_taraba@yahoo.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">nate=Nathan Kurz <<a href="mailto:nate@verse.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">nate@verse.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">mammique=Camille Harang <<a href="mailto:mammique@garbure.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mammique@garbure.org</a>> kbielefe=Karl Bielefeldt <<a href="mailto:uhauufo02@sneakemail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">uhauufo02@sneakemail.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">alexf=Alex Ferrer <<a href="mailto:alex@ftconsult.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">alex@ftconsult.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">pmdumuid=Pierre Dumuid <<a href="mailto:pierre.dumuid@adelaide.edu.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">pierre.dumuid@adelaide.edu.au</a>></div><div dir="auto">giskard=Riccardo Setti <<a href="mailto:giskard@autistici.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">giskard@autistici.org</a>></div><div dir="auto">jstewart=Joe Stewart <<a href="mailto:jstewart@lurhq.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">jstewart@lurhq.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">doudou=Sylvain Joyeux <<a href="mailto:doudou@melix.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">doudou@melix.net</a>></div><div dir="auto">rafael2k=Rafael Diniz <<a href="mailto:rafael@riseup.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">rafael@riseup.net</a>></div><div dir="auto">nicolasm=Nicolas Maufrais <<a href="mailto:e.conti@gmx.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">e.conti@gmx.net</a>></div><div dir="auto">raffa=Raffaella Traniello <<a href="mailto:raffaella.traniello@livecom.it" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">raffaella.traniello@livecom.it</a>></div><div dir="auto">feranick=Nicola Ferralis <<a href="mailto:feranick@hotmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">feranick@hotmail.com</a>></div><div dir="auto">akirad=Paolo Rampino <<a href="mailto:tuttoainternet@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">tuttoainternet@gmail.com</a>></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">All in all 30 authors</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cin-CV did a lot of bugfixing, build system , internationalization work, some plugin work. Also IIRC ffmpeg support appeared in some branch of cv "fork" while may be Adam and Bill come up with similar file on their own?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/cinelerra/ffmpeg.C<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">contain no attribution ... guess we should track this down in history and fix</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">CinHV aboutperfs.C contain this list (Myself only send literally few oneliners, but I guess my work on cingg merges into it)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Richard Baverstock"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Karl Bielefeldt")); credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Kevin Brosius"));</div><div dir="auto"> credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jean-Luc Coulon"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jerome Cornet"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Pierre Marc Dumuid"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Nicola Ferralis"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Alex Ferrer"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Gustavo I<C3><B1>iguez"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Tefan de Konink"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Nathan Kurz")); credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Greg Mekkes"))</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jean-Michel Poure"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Monty Montgomery")); credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Bill Morrow"));</div><div dir="auto">#ifdef X_HAVE_UTF8_STRING credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Einar R<C3><BC>nkaru"));</div><div dir="auto">#else</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Einar R\374nkaru"));</div><div dir="auto">#endif</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Paolo Rampino"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Andrew Randrianasulu"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Petter Reinholdtsen"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Eric Seigne"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Johannes Sixt"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Joe Stewart"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Dan Streetman")); credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Mark Taraba"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Andraz Tori"));</div><div dir="auto">credits.append(new BC_ListBoxItem("Jonas Wulff"));</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">25 authors. (with overlap)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Tefan de Konik looks like typo? Stefan, may be?</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2022-January/004602.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2022-January/004602.html</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think for cingg specifically we should add Bill, Sergey at very least and Andrea, Phyllis, Terje, IgorB, and other *testers* because without your work we newer had chance to move anywhere near our current state.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">(i guess we should say list is incomplete in first edition, because fishing out all contributor's names out of mail list archive will take time)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think we can go with second form of list, without emails? Usually email is useful if someone want to ask few questions, but because someone contribute to various cinelerra branches does not mean they are still on it ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I guess leaving remark about incompleteness and links to current email archive is best we can do?</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></div>
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