<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">сб, 28 янв. 2023 г., 21:49 Stefan de Konink via Cin <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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I think this scenario has passed by on the mailinglist before, and I might <br>
because of how I work, be more attracted to these kinds of problems than <br>
others that mainly do non-linear work.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">While I think I can't even start on implementing those ideas I have question: did you tried to use 'split timeline' feature, so each cam put on same teack but at wildly different time and you have 2-4 zones for working on each one? (mostly by cutting things to another track?) Or I completely misuderstand how split timeline works in cin ...</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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After the recording, and after getting the main production idea, my <br>
projects are timewise mostly influenced by reconstruction of a multi track <br>
linear timeline. I am using multiple camera's that don't use any (world) <br>
timecodes, and have 2GB limitations. So the best thing they can do is <br>
giving me a relative timestamp by means the filename or creation_time <br>
metadata.<br>
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What I would be interested in is the ability to:<br>
<br>
0. having a forever scrolling canvas, canvas may do tricks like<br>
hiding places where no content is available</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">--</blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">but how you will tell users there is like 1, min of content, and there is 5m? By some markets? Should those 'edits' expand individually when needed?</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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1. "automatically" construct such timeline each track(group) being<br>
from a single device, which typically atomically can only produce<br>
a single stream of content by means of metadata</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">---<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">how you think should work, is there something like cameraID or you need to associate some user-know metadata key to specific camera, so you can say send all medias with this metadata to specific track or media bin?</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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2. having some tooling that can do macro alignment, independent<br>
of metadata (for example by audio fingerprinting)<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">interesting idea, does any libre NLE currently have such functionality?</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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3. having some tooling that can do micro alignment</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">--<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Like 'move this segment few frames left/right' as context menu option?</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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4. export this in either some EDL format or multitrack format<br>
being NLE independent</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">---</blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'll try to look into it a bit more, but no promices (cmx3600 only had few audio tracks, but may be there were unofficial extensions ...)</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I wonder what other people are using for the above, other than pen and <br>
paper.<br>
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>From my own experience within Cinerella (I know about mixers) I don't end <br>
up with the workflow that I want for non-continious recordings.<br>
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A second email follows on a different workflow issue.<br>
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Stefan<br>
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