<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">ср, 8 февр. 2023 г., 16:52 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Den 08.02.2023 03:46, skrev Andrew
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        <div dir="auto">it exist, just not (yet?) in Europe ...</div>
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    4KVC00, interesting model worth to have a closer look at. And it
    seemingly is available or at least prices in Europe for €71.99<br>
    <a href="https://www.avaccess.com/eu/products/4kvc00/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.avaccess.com/eu/products/4kvc00/</a><br>
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    If it has better cost/performance than other similar UVC v4L2
    models, I don't know.<br>
    Looking at its tech specs, it has color precision <br>
    Deep Color     4K@60Hz: Up to 8bit <br>
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    Not really fair comparable with the "not so unexpensive" standalone
    SSD recorder (BMD Hyperdeck Shuttle 2<br>
<a href="https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841023-REG/Blackmagic_Design_HYPERD_PT2_HyperDeck_Shuttle_2_SSD.html/specs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841023-REG/Blackmagic_Design_HYPERD_PT2_HyperDeck_Shuttle_2_SSD.html/specs</a><br>
    Color Precision    10-bit<br>
    Video Sampling    4:2:2<br>
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    And not to forget the 8-Bit vs 10-Bit Video Color Explained
    (thousands/banding vs millions):<br>
    <a href="https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/series/the-filmmakers-handbook/8-bit-or-10-bit-video-color-explained/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://fujifilm-x.com/en-us/series/the-filmmakers-handbook/8-bit-or-10-bit-video-color-explained/</a><br>
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    </div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">yeah, with 19x diff in price you left to wonder if 10bit video path just *that* much expensive, or they charge because they can ....</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">a bit of a look inside some of those devices, not really open down to fpga (?), but still you can look at firmware ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/an-open-source-hdmi-capture-card/">https://hackaday.com/2022/10/14/an-open-source-hdmi-capture-card/</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">look at github link from there, it definitely list usb 3.0 yuv at usable framerates, but for usb 2.0 this slows down to exactly 5/10 fps ...</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
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          Andrew Randrianasulu <<a href="mailto:randrianasulu@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">randrianasulu@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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              <div dir="auto">‎4KVC00 from "V AV access"<br>
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              <div dir="auto"> A true YUY2, USB 3.0 capture card capable
                of 1080p 60fps!
                <div dir="auto">Reviewed in the United States on June 7,
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                  For the price, this thing is awesome. It's actually
                  USB 3.0 (instead of just a fake blue connector) and is
                  capable of delivering raw 1080p60 video for capture!
                  I've been looking around for a good 1080p60 capture
                  card for my Nintendo Switch, and this fits the bill
                  quite nicely, as the loop-out keeps the gaming
                  'competitive' while the capture looks great.<br>
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                  Pros:<br>
                  - Really captures at 1080p 60fps, and delivers sharp
                  images (instead of blurrier 30fps ones you'll find on
                  cheap USB 2.0 MJPEG-based capture cards). YUY2 (the
                  video format) is chroma subsampled though, which means
                  that really small text may have a bit of
                  discoloration, but for games it's not really an issue.<br>
                  - Low latency capture (at least from what I can tell
                  in OBS preview)<br>
                  - Loop out (yay)<br>
                  - Works with Linux as a simple V4L2 capture device<br>
                  - Sound is nicely in sync<br>
                  - Price (I got it for like ~$40 or so, and haven't
                  found anything this good at this price point - heck,
                  it outclasses my AverMedia Live Gamer Mini I bought
                  used at $60)<br>
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                <div dir="auto">aja and other stuff cost ... *much*
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                <div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.aja.com/products/u-tap-hdmi" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.aja.com/products/u-tap-hdmi</a><br>
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                <div dir="auto">439$</div>
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                <div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.amx.com/en/products/uvc1-4k" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amx.com/en/products/uvc1-4k</a><br>
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                <div dir="auto">even costlier, 800+!</div>
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                <div dir="auto">Anyway, in all cases cable (usb) might
                  be limiting factor, too?</div>
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                <div dir="auto">I really hope this HAMA device actually
                  just was plugged in wrong port or via wrong cable,
                  otherwise I think it will be wise to replace it with
                  something else (sadly cheap-end devices may change
                  their guts without changing appearance, so ...russian
                  roulette!)</div>
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