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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 12.02.2023 23:34, skrev Andrew
      Randrianasulu:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 13 февр. 2023 г.,
              01:15 Terje J. Hanssen <<a
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                <div>Den 08.02.2023 21:05, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/11/07/ms2130-based-4k-hdmi-to-usb-3-0-video-capture-dongle-sells-for-19/"
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                    <div dir="auto">"I learned about the video capture
                      dongle via <a
                        href="https://twitter.com/MateuszStarzak/status/1589595781971181568"
                        target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">Mateusz Starzak</a> who
                      purchased a sample <a
                        href="https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dd6uEUB"
                        target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">on Aliexpress</a> and
                      confirmed support for uncompressed YUV @ 1080p60.
                      He also mentioned the latency to be around 6 to 11
                      frames depending on the resolution with 720p input
                      to 720p output only looking slightly faster than
                      1080p input to 1080p output."</div>
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                My tests with the return-object Hama ms2109 uncovered it
                failed on FHD video due to unuseable 5 fps, while it
                managed 422 subsampling and 8-bit color depth.<br>
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                I mentioned I have ms2130 in order, yes.<br>
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                Reading from the ms2130 specs:<br>
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                    Support input resolution up to 4K@30Hz;<br>
                    Support output resolution up to 1080P@60Hz YUY2;<br>
                    Support 24/30/36bit Deep color;<br>
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                The different way to specify color depth/color
                precision/bit depth: 8-bits or 10-bits is confusing.<br>
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        <div dir="auto">I think they refer to *input* side of equation,
          i.e.  what type of hdmi signal it can eat .... what comes out
          of other end .... we will hopefully see!</div>
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    Yep, of course you're right. The info above was from the sellers
    (seemingly unsorted) feature list at AliExpress.<br>
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    The specification list from the link in your first post clarify that
    this is HDMI Input:<br>
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      <li>Main chip – MacroSilicon/UltraSemi MS2130 USB 3.2 Gen 1
        high-definition video and audio acquisition chip</li>
      <li>HDMI input up to 4Kp30, 24/30/36-bit depth color</li>
      <li>Video Output up to 1080p60 in YUV or JPEG output format</li>
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    Regarding USB OutputYUY2, the feature list above is yet most
    clarifying (compare another post from me):<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2023-February/006310.html">https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2023-February/006310.html</a><br>
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        YUY2 4:2:2     Packed     8 bits pr channel<br>
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    That was clarifying from Microsoft - but who another place say
    unfortunately not so clear yet, so yes, we hopefully will see ;)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/medfound/recommended-8-bit-yuv-formats-for-video-rendering#422-formats-16-bits-per-pixel">https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/medfound/recommended-8-bit-yuv-formats-for-video-rendering#422-formats-16-bits-per-pixel</a><br>
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    <blockquote>4:2:2 Formats, 16 Bits per Pixel<br>
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      Two 4:2:2 formats are recommended, with the following FOURCC
      codes:<br>
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          YUY2<br>
          UYVY<br>
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      Both are packed formats, where each macropixel is two pixels
      encoded as four consecutive bytes. This results in horizontal
      downsampling of the chroma by a factor of two.<br>
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                Regarding "24/30/36bit Deep color" I found the following
                in wikipedia:<br>
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                True color (24-bit)<br>
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                    24 bits almost always use 8 bits each of R, G, and B
                (8 bpc).<br>
                    224 gives 16,777,216 color variations.<br>
                    humans can see the changes between some adjacent
                colors as color banding.<br>
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                Deep color (30-bit)<br>
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                    Deep color consists of a billion or more colors.[15]
                230 is 1,073,741,824. Usually this is 10 bits each of
                red, green, and blue (10 bpc).<br>
                    36-bit<br>
                    Using 12 bits per color channel produces 36 bits,
                68,719,476,736 colors. <br>
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                    <div dir="auto">well, I hope Terje's camera can be
                      switched into hdmi progressive output mode .....<br>
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                Yes, and it has already proved to do this even better
                than first expected, I think.<br>
                Again, according to S. Mullen's handbook for V1 and FX7
                (who mentioned BMD's capture cards in this context): <br>
                <blockquote>Sony’s 3ClearVid technology is tightly
                  integrated with Sony’s Enhanced Imaging Processor
                  (EIP). According to Sony, the EIP works at<br>
                  1920x1080 in a 4:2:2 color space. The EIP has a
                  2-million-pixel buffer for each of the three primary
                  colors.<br>
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                  When the camera is operating, the EIP generates
                  uncompressed 1440x1080i with a 4:2:2 color space.
                  Uncompressed 4:2:2, 8-bit,<br>
                  digital video plus dual-channel, PCM, 16-bit, 48kHz
                  audio are output via the HDMI port, while 4:2:2 analog
                  is output via component-out.</blockquote>
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        <div dir="auto">Another interesting output then, for this
          specific camera? (component out - 3 cables confusingly colored
          as red-green-blue, even if they carry luminance and
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                  Therefore, you can record 4:2:2 live HD video from the
                  camera without MPEG-2 compression. <br>
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                According ot my tests FX7 created FHD 1920x080p, 8-bit
                422 video..<br>
                I also tested 1440x1080 video size, which was not listed
                among v4l2 supported format. This format was
                automatically encoded as 1280x1024.<br>
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                So I also wondered how it was possible to get encoded
                (SD) 720x576 and 1280x1024, though they supported by
                v4l2/capture card?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">no idea ...sometimes device just scale
          automatically in hardware ...</div>
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                found in Mullen's handbook:<br>
                <blockquote>If the HDMI handshake determines that the
                  device can accept 1080i—then 1080i is sent. If the
                  handshake determines that the device can only accept
                  480i/576i—then<br>
                  480i/576i is sent. <br>
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                      <div dir="auto">contain few links. Of course main
                        problem is verification ..... if they just paint
                        them (usb connectors) blue for no reason ...:/</div>
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