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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew
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              18:43 Terje J. Hanssen <<a
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                <div>Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вс, 19 февр.
                          2023 г., 18:25 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <<a
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                          <div> IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple) / i.LINK
                            (Sony) has been a standard connection to
                            transfer native DV and HDV video files to
                            Lin/Win/Apple computers.<br>
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                            <ul>
                              <li>FireWire DV/HDV recording should still
                                work via dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS and
                                ffmpeg etc., or directly via some NLE
                                systems.</li>
                              <li>The basic dvgrab tool is still valid
                                on Linux and was mentioned in the Cin-CV
                                wiki sect. 19.2</li>
                              <li><a
                                  href="http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5"
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                              <li>ffmpeg enabled FireWire DV/HDV input
                                device using libiec61883 (Streamcopy)
                                seems also interesting. </li>
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                            <blockquote>On my Leap 15.4 or Tumbleweed,
                              ffmpeg-5 is seemingly not compiled with 
                              --enable-libiec61883.</blockquote>
                            <blockquote>Is possibly ffmpeg available
                              with enabled libiec61883 via Cin-GG?</blockquote>
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                            I had a look into the Cin-GG manual chpt 13
                            "Capturing and Recording Media", but could
                            not see Firewire media transfer was
                            mentioned.  However, in the Appendice
                            section B.2 Configuration Features, Optional
                            Packages is found:<br>
                            <blockquote>--with-firewire       use
                              firewire (auto)<br>
                              --with-dv                use dv (auto)<br>
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                            Does this mean that Firewire/dv capture
                            already is supported or optional can be
                            configured?<br>
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                    <div dir="auto">it was not tested in ages .....</div>
                    <div dir="auto">guess try to install all -dev
                      version of libraries and look at output of cingg's
                      configure .... then connect device and try to set
                      capture device to iec* ....</div>
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                I guess that's not just for me ;) but will try dvgrab
                again (tested it once several years ago), when my
                camcorder is back from service.<br>
                The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based DV/HDV
                recorder seemingly is dead.<br>
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        <div dir="auto">well, you can look if appimage version of cingg
          was compiled with those libraries</div>
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    Could you possibly outline how to do it?<br>
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    I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on
    CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual wiki:<br>
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href="https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg13022.html">https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg13022.html</a>
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg06183.html">https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg06183.html</a><br>
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      <h3 id="toc26"><span>21.12.2 Grabbing HDV from camcorder</span></h3>
      <p>There is no perfect solution so far. One possibility is to run
        the test-mpeg2 command available with the sources of <strong>libiec61883</strong>.
        Use this syntax:</p>
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        <pre><code>test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg</code>
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      <p>and press <strong>Play</strong> on the camcorder. You should
        not run any heavy resources consuming task on your computer
        since the lack of caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops.</p>
      <p>New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal example:<br>
        Syntax:</p>
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        <pre><code>dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip</code>
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        <div dir="auto">, but I am guessing (from bug <a
            href="https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=590"
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          ) you might run into troubles trying to record exactly HDV
          stream - because it is not DV video, but mpeg2. There is code
          in DVB input module for dealing with this, but it probably
          must be wired to DV /firewire module, or something like this
          should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding compressed buffer:</div>
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        <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9"
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                            Other NLE references, Premiere Pro and Vegas
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