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19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J.
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<div> IEE 1394 / FireWire (Apple)
/ i.LINK (Sony) has been a
standard connection to transfer
native DV and HDV video files to
Lin/Win/Apple computers.<br>
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<li>FireWire DV/HDV recording
should still work via
dvgrab, vlc, guvcview, OBS
and ffmpeg etc., or directly
via some NLE systems.</li>
<li>The basic dvgrab tool is
still valid on Linux and was
mentioned in the Cin-CV wiki
sect. 19.2</li>
<li><a
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<li>ffmpeg enabled FireWire
DV/HDV input device using
libiec61883 (Streamcopy)
seems also interesting. </li>
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<blockquote>On my Leap 15.4 or
Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is
seemingly not compiled with
--enable-libiec61883.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Is possibly ffmpeg
available with enabled
libiec61883 via Cin-GG?</blockquote>
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I had a look into the Cin-GG
manual chpt 13 "Capturing and
Recording Media", but could not
see Firewire media transfer was
mentioned. However, in the
Appendice section B.2
Configuration Features, Optional
Packages is found:<br>
<blockquote>--with-firewire
use firewire (auto)<br>
--with-dv use
dv (auto)<br>
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Does this mean that Firewire/dv
capture already is supported or
optional can be configured?<br>
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<div dir="auto">it was not tested in
ages .....</div>
<div dir="auto">guess try to install all
-dev version of libraries and look at
output of cingg's configure .... then
connect device and try to set capture
device to iec* ....</div>
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I guess that's not just for me ;) but will
try dvgrab again (tested it once several
years ago), when my camcorder is back from
service.<br>
The reason is my 10 years old FireWire based
DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead.<br>
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<div dir="auto">well, you can look if appimage
version of cingg was compiled with those libraries</div>
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Could you possibly outline how to do it?<br>
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<div dir="auto">in preferences -> recording tab there must be
source named IEC 61883.</div>
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To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to
English:<br>
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Settings | Settings | Preferences window:<br>
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Video In / Record driver<br>
In the dropdown menu there are available both <br>
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<li>DV 1394 </li>
<li>IEC 61883</li>
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I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab on
CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced manual
wiki:<br>
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Grabbing HDV from camcorder</span></h3>
<p>There is no perfect solution so far. One
possibility is to run the test-mpeg2 command
available with the sources of <strong>libiec61883</strong>.
Use this syntax:</p>
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<p>and press <strong>Play</strong> on the camcorder.
You should not run any heavy resources consuming
task on your computer since the lack of caching in
test-mpeg2 causes frame drops.</p>
<p>New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV. Minimal
example:<br>
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<pre><code>dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip</code>
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) you might run into troubles trying to record
exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV video,
but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for
dealing with this, but it probably must be wired
to DV /firewire module, or something like this
should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding
compressed buffer:</div>
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Other NLE references, Premiere
Pro and Vegas respectively<br>
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