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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 19.02.2023 23:43, skrev Terje J.
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                  <div>Den 19.02.2023 16:54, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                              <div>Den 19.02.2023 16:28, skrev Andrew
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                                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вс,
                                        19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J.
                                        Hanssen via Cin <<a
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                                        <div> IEE 1394 / FireWire
                                          (Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has
                                          been a standard connection to
                                          transfer native DV and HDV
                                          video files to Lin/Win/Apple
                                          computers.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <ul>
                                            <li>FireWire DV/HDV
                                              recording should still
                                              work via dvgrab, vlc,
                                              guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg
                                              etc., or directly via some
                                              NLE systems.</li>
                                            <li>The basic dvgrab tool is
                                              still valid on Linux and
                                              was mentioned in the
                                              Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2</li>
                                            <li><a
                                                href="http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:capturing-media#5"
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                                          <ul>
                                            <li>ffmpeg enabled FireWire
                                              DV/HDV input device using
                                              libiec61883 (Streamcopy)
                                              seems also interesting. </li>
                                          </ul>
                                          <blockquote>On my Leap 15.4 or
                                            Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is
                                            seemingly not compiled with 
                                            --enable-libiec61883.</blockquote>
                                          <blockquote>Is possibly ffmpeg
                                            available with enabled
                                            libiec61883 via Cin-GG?</blockquote>
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                                          I had a look into the Cin-GG
                                          manual chpt 13 "Capturing and
                                          Recording Media", but could
                                          not see Firewire media
                                          transfer was mentioned. 
                                          However, in the Appendice
                                          section B.2 Configuration
                                          Features, Optional Packages is
                                          found:<br>
                                          <blockquote>--with-firewire
                                                  use firewire (auto)<br>
                                            --with-dv                use
                                            dv (auto)<br>
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                                          Does this mean that
                                          Firewire/dv capture already is
                                          supported or optional can be
                                          configured?<br>
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                                  <div dir="auto">it was not tested in
                                    ages .....</div>
                                  <div dir="auto">guess try to install
                                    all -dev version of libraries and
                                    look at output of cingg's configure
                                    .... then connect device and try to
                                    set capture device to iec* ....</div>
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                              I guess that's not just for me ;) but will
                              try dvgrab again (tested it once several
                              years ago), when my camcorder is back from
                              service.<br>
                              The reason is my 10 years old FireWire
                              based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead.<br>
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                      <div dir="auto">well, you can look if appimage
                        version of cingg was compiled with those
                        libraries</div>
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                  Could you possibly outline how to do it?<br>
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          <div dir="auto">in preferences -> recording tab there must
            be source named IEC 61883.</div>
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      To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to
      English:<br>
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      Settings | Settings | Preferences window:<br>
      <br>
      Video In / Record driver<br>
      In  the dropdown menu there are available both <br>
      <ul>
        <li>DV 1394 </li>
        <li>IEC 61883</li>
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    As reference also the following from Cin-CV's wiki and from
    Raffael's Howto (Cinelerra for Grandma):<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1">http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1</a><br>
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        Firewire<br>
        Firewire is the fastest way to download material into your
    system. Unless you will be importing your media from a CD, any other
    pre-captured format or use an analog video grabber, you will need
    firewire on your system.<br>
        DV cameras<br>
        There is an large variety of DV cameras that can be used with
    Cinelerra. Almost any camera that can connect using firewire will
    work. Be sure to set the appropriate parameters on the video
    grabbing system to match your particular camera.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder">http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab">http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab</a><br>
    How to capture video from your miniDV camcorder /Using the Command
    Line - dvgrab<br>
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                  I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab
                  on CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced
                  manual wiki:<br>
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href="https://www.mail-archive.com/cinelerra@skolelinux.no/msg13022.html"
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                  <a
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                  <a
                    href="http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:tips#26"
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                    <h3
id="m_5967759324125958895m_1095915707866987237m_-2032610588970768253toc26"><span>21.12.2
                        Grabbing HDV from camcorder</span></h3>
                    <p>There is no perfect solution so far. One
                      possibility is to run the test-mpeg2 command
                      available with the sources of <strong>libiec61883</strong>.
                      Use this syntax:</p>
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                      <pre><code>test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg</code>
</pre>
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                    <p>and press <strong>Play</strong> on the
                      camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources
                      consuming task on your computer since the lack of
                      caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops.</p>
                    <p>New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV.
                      Minimal example:<br>
                      Syntax:</p>
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                      <pre><code>dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip</code>
</pre>
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                      <div dir="auto">, but I am guessing (from bug <a
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                        ) you might run into troubles trying to record
                        exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV video,
                        but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for
                        dealing with this, but it probably must be wired
                        to DV /firewire module, or something like this
                        should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding
                        compressed buffer:</div>
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                      <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commit/0ff51f4c53e17ff33701e8cc1096de33a87313b9"
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                                          Other NLE references, Premiere
                                          Pro and Vegas respectively<br>
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href="https://helpx.adobe.com/no/premiere-pro/using/capturing-dv-or-hdv-video.html"
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