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19 февр. 2023 г., 18:25 Terje J.
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<div> IEE 1394 / FireWire
(Apple) / i.LINK (Sony) has
been a standard connection to
transfer native DV and HDV
video files to Lin/Win/Apple
computers.<br>
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<ul>
<li>FireWire DV/HDV
recording should still
work via dvgrab, vlc,
guvcview, OBS and ffmpeg
etc., or directly via some
NLE systems.</li>
<li>The basic dvgrab tool is
still valid on Linux and
was mentioned in the
Cin-CV wiki sect. 19.2</li>
<li><a
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<li>ffmpeg enabled FireWire
DV/HDV input device using
libiec61883 (Streamcopy)
seems also interesting. </li>
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<blockquote>On my Leap 15.4 or
Tumbleweed, ffmpeg-5 is
seemingly not compiled with
--enable-libiec61883.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Is possibly ffmpeg
available with enabled
libiec61883 via Cin-GG?</blockquote>
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I had a look into the Cin-GG
manual chpt 13 "Capturing and
Recording Media", but could
not see Firewire media
transfer was mentioned.
However, in the Appendice
section B.2 Configuration
Features, Optional Packages is
found:<br>
<blockquote>--with-firewire
use firewire (auto)<br>
--with-dv use
dv (auto)<br>
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Does this mean that
Firewire/dv capture already is
supported or optional can be
configured?<br>
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<div dir="auto">it was not tested in
ages .....</div>
<div dir="auto">guess try to install
all -dev version of libraries and
look at output of cingg's configure
.... then connect device and try to
set capture device to iec* ....</div>
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I guess that's not just for me ;) but will
try dvgrab again (tested it once several
years ago), when my camcorder is back from
service.<br>
The reason is my 10 years old FireWire
based DV/HDV recorder seemingly is dead.<br>
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<div dir="auto">well, you can look if appimage
version of cingg was compiled with those
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<div dir="auto">in preferences -> recording tab there must
be source named IEC 61883.</div>
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To cross-check I translate back from my local Norwegian version to
English:<br>
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Settings | Settings | Preferences window:<br>
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Video In / Record driver<br>
In the dropdown menu there are available both <br>
<ul>
<li>DV 1394 </li>
<li>IEC 61883</li>
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As reference also the following from Cin-CV's wiki and from
Raffael's Howto (Cinelerra for Grandma):<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1">http://cinelerra-cv.wikidot.com/cincv-manual-en:installation#toc1</a><br>
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Firewire<br>
Firewire is the fastest way to download material into your
system. Unless you will be importing your media from a CD, any other
pre-captured format or use an analog video grabber, you will need
firewire on your system.<br>
DV cameras<br>
There is an large variety of DV cameras that can be used with
Cinelerra. Almost any camera that can connect using firewire will
work. Be sure to set the appropriate parameters on the video
grabbing system to match your particular camera.<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder">http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_how_to_capture_video_from_your_minidv_camcorder</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab">http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html#_using_the_command_line_dvgrab</a><br>
How to capture video from your miniDV camcorder /Using the Command
Line - dvgrab<br>
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I looked up some of the older discussion about dvgrab
on CinCVS/Skolelinux mailing list and the referenced
manual wiki:<br>
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Grabbing HDV from camcorder</span></h3>
<p>There is no perfect solution so far. One
possibility is to run the test-mpeg2 command
available with the sources of <strong>libiec61883</strong>.
Use this syntax:</p>
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<pre><code>test-mpeg2 > hdv_tape.mpeg</code>
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<p>and press <strong>Play</strong> on the
camcorder. You should not run any heavy resources
consuming task on your computer since the lack of
caching in test-mpeg2 causes frame drops.</p>
<p>New version of dvgrab seems to support HDV.
Minimal example:<br>
Syntax:</p>
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<pre><code>dvgrab -format mpeg2 myclip</code>
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<div dir="auto">, but I am guessing (from bug <a
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) you might run into troubles trying to record
exactly HDV stream - because it is not DV video,
but mpeg2. There is code in DVB input module for
dealing with this, but it probably must be wired
to DV /firewire module, or something like this
should be used in ffmpeg.C for pre-decoding
compressed buffer:</div>
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Other NLE references, Premiere
Pro and Vegas respectively<br>
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