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<div dir="auto">I think you need another
software like (q)dvdauthor or dvdstyler to
make DVD - they use *program* streams, not
transport streams as tsMuxer creates ...</div>
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I thought first to use mkisofs, but didnt
really find out the relevant syntax to make a
video dvd iso from the ffmpeg created dv28.mpg
file with pcm audio.<br>
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Had a quick look in DVD styler, but for audio
it seemed to support only AC3 or MP2 audio.<br>
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<div dir="auto">I think because project still active
you can look at their support place and see if
anyone made request for this already, or if not -
log your own.</div>
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href="https://sourceforge.net/p/dvdstyler/discussion/318795/thread/00ecc86f13/"
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<div dir="auto">If you use Mplex for muxing then Mplex
will abort with a message that it cannot recognize
the audio stream. This is an Mplex issue. It is no
problem for Mplex to mux an LPCM audio stream, but
the file must have the extension "lpcm". You can
verify this by renaming the audio file in the
DVDStyler cache folder and give it the "lpcm"
extension. Then feed the video and this renamed
audio stream to Mplex for muxing, and you will get a
perfect MPEG2 file with PCM audio.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Also from mjpegtools mail list archive:</div>
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href="https://www.mail-archive.com/mjpeg-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg06753.html"
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<div dir="auto">apparently you must use one big mpeg file in
this case</div>
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<p> <a
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<div dir="auto"> Well folks(?),<br>
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No responses but I appear to have made some headway, which
I'll share here in case someone's out there somewhere
scratching their own head over this.<br>
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The problem seems to have to do with dvdauthor's STC
discontinuity at the chapter points when it's fed one file
per chapter; the initial pts/dts values are reset, and
this somehow throws things off during playback, even if
audio and video endpoints are perfectly aligned.<br>
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If the whole titleset is mplexed as one mpg and then
dvdauthored with chapter- point offsets, the gaps
disappear. Also, if the chapter points aren't aligned to
GOP boundaries, dvdauthor will do it anyway and shift them
backwards.<br>
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<div dir="auto">I hope this workflow is not bitrotted.
According to man page from <a
href="https://linux.die.net/man/1/mplex" rel="noreferrer
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mplex accept lpcm params:</div>
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<div dir="auto"><dt><b>L|--lpcm-params</b> </dt>
<dd><i>samples_per_sec:channels:bits_per_sample</i><br>
[, <i>samples_per_sec:channels:bits_per_sample</i> ...]
<p> A comma-seperated list of paramter sets for the lpcm
audio streams (given in the order the lpcm streams
appear on the command line). Each parameter set
comprises the sampling rate in Hz, the number of
channels, and the number of bits per sample seperated
by colons. For example, the default 48kHz two-channel
16-bit audio would be specified as 48000:2:16. </p>
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<dt>Note: these parameters are necessary because mplex
expects raw LPCM </dt>
<dd>audio data without any headers. That is: for each
sample point a group of 16,20, or 24 bit amplitude
values, one for each channel. Amplitude values are
signed with the constituent bytes in big-endian (most
significant bytes first) order. For 20 bit samples I am
not sure but what documentation I have suggests such
samples are padded at the lsb end so that they
byte-align at the most significant bits. </dd>
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<div dir="auto">some more reading from 2005-6 era.</div>
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Not a direct respons, but I think I have come a step forward via a
five years old ffmpeg bug report:<br>
<blockquote><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/6782"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/6782</a><br>
Doesn't produce MPEGPS-MPEG-2-LPCM compliant output (-target, -f
dvd, -f vob). Buffer underflow appear.<br>
pcm_dvd added; mpegps -target removed<br>
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There is obviously a deticated "pcm_dvd" codec for ffmpeg,
correspondingly to the later "pcm_bluray".<br>
So I verified this on my ffmpeg 5.1.2 built from Packman for
Tumbleweed and found:<br>
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<blockquote>ffmpeg -hide_banner -codecs | egrep
"pcm_bluray|pcm_dvd"<br>
DEAI.S pcm_bluray PCM signed 16|20|24-bit big-endian
for Blu-ray media<br>
DEAI.S pcm_dvd PCM signed 20|24-bit big-endian<br>
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Transcoded input raw DV with PCM audio to MPEG-2 video pcm_dvd
audio in a VOB/MPG format:<br>
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<blockquote>ffmpeg -hide_banner -i dv01.dv -c:v mpeg2video -refs 1
-bf 2 -b:v 8M -maxrate 8M -minrate 8M -bufsize 20M -muxrate 11M
-dc 10 -c:a <b>pcm_dvd</b> -f vob -flags +ilme+ildct dv01.mpg<br>
............ still a lot of<br>
[vob @ 0x562a8c68f240] buffer underflow st=1 bufi=1392
size=2008<br>
Last message repeated 6 times<br>
[vob @ 0x562a8c68f240] buffer underflow st=1 bufi=1396
size=2008<br>
frame=14912 fps=298 q=3.9 Lsize= 703652kB time=00:09:56.48
bitrate=9663.9kbits/s speed=11.9x <br>
video:582644kB audio:112007kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB
global headers:0kB muxing overhead: 1.295818%<br>
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<blockquote>du -sh *.dv *.mpg<br>
2,0G dv01.dv<br>
688M dv01.mpg<br>
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Verified that the ffmpeg <b>dv01.mpg</b> output file contains <b>pcm_dvd</b><br>
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ffprobe -hide_banner dv01.mpg<br>
<blockquote> Input #0, mpeg, from 'dv01.mpg':<br>
Duration: 00:09:56.48, start: 0.540000, bitrate: 9663 kb/s<br>
Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv,
bottom first), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k
tbn<br>
Side data:<br>
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 8000000/0/0 buffer size:
20004864 vbv_delay: N/A<br>
Stream #0:1[0xa0]: Audio: <b>pcm_dvd</b>, 48000 Hz,
stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s<br>
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The DVD structure and video files from DeVeDe is now being
transcoded from pcm_dvd to AC-3 audio:<br>
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<blockquote>tree ./dv01_tw_DVD -sh<br>
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[4.0K] ./dv01_tw_DVD<br>
├── [500M] dv01_tw_DVD.iso<br>
├── [4.0K] dvd_tree<br>
│ ├── [4.0K] AUDIO_TS<br>
│ └── [4.0K] VIDEO_TS<br>
│ ├── [ 12K] VIDEO_TS.BUP<br>
│ ├── [ 12K] VIDEO_TS.IFO<br>
│ ├── [ 32K] VIDEO_TS.VOB<br>
│ ├── [ 18K] VTS_01_0.BUP<br>
│ ├── [ 18K] VTS_01_0.IFO<br>
│ ├── [3.1M] VTS_01_0.VOB<br>
│ ├── [ 32K] VTS_01_1.VOB<br>
│ ├── [ 24K] VTS_02_0.BUP<br>
│ ├── [ 24K] VTS_02_0.IFO<br>
│ ├── [ 32K] VTS_02_0.VOB<br>
│ └── [496M] VTS_02_1.VOB<br>
├── [4.0K] menu<br>
│ ├── [1.9K] menu_0_active_bg.png<br>
│ ├── [ 61K] menu_0_bg.png<br>
│ ├── [3.1M] menu_0B.mpg<br>
│ ├── [3.1M] menu_0.mpg<br>
│ ├── [1.9K] menu_0_selected_bg.png<br>
│ ├── [1.7K] menu_0_unselected_bg.png<br>
│ └── [ 451] menu_0.xml<br>
├── [4.0K] movies<br>
│ └── [496M] movie_0.mpg<br>
└── [4.0K] xml_data<br>
└── [1.7K] dvdauthor.xml<br>
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7 directories, 21 files<br>
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ffprobe -hide_banner dv01_tw_DVD/dvd_tree/VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB<br>
<br>
Input #0, mpeg, from
'dv01_tw_DVD/dvd_tree/VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB':<br>
Duration: 00:09:56.49, start: 0.534667, bitrate: 6970 kb/s<br>
Stream #0:0[0x1bf]: Data: dvd_nav_packet<br>
Stream #0:1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv,
progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k
tbn<br>
Side data:<br>
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 7500000/0/0 buffer size:
1835008 vbv_delay: N/A<br>
Stream #0:2[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 224
kb/s<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
ffprobe -hide_banner dv01_tw_DVD/movies/movie_0.mpg<br>
<br>
[mpeg @ 0x555ff4407ec0] start time for stream 0 is not set
in estimate_timings_from_pts<br>
Input #0, mpeg, from 'movie_0.mpg':<br>
Duration: 00:09:56.49, start: 0.534667, bitrate: 6970 kb/s<br>
Stream #0:0[0x1bf]: Data: dvd_nav_packet<br>
Stream #0:1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv,
progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k
tbn<br>
Side data:<br>
cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 7500000/0/0 buffer size:
1835008 vbv_delay: N/A<br>
Stream #0:2[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 224
kb/s<br>
Unsupported codec with id 98312 for input stream 0<br>
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I looks like DeVeDeNG version 4.17 possibly doesn't support
pcm_dvd yet. To get this clarified I have written to the author to
try to get this clarified.<br>
My first impression of this program is that I got taste for its
simplicity and straight forward use, yet relative comprehensive
behind the buttons.<br>
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<blockquote><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://gitlab.com/rastersoft/devedeng"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/rastersoft/devedeng</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.xmodulo.com/create-video-dvd-linux-desktop.html"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.xmodulo.com/create-video-dvd-linux-desktop.html</a><br>
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Documentation for the legacy DeVeDe 3.9 version<br>
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href="https://www.rafalinux.com/?page_id=248"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.rafalinux.com/?page_id=248</a><br>
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So the question in the mean time is:<br>
Any other PCM capable DVD authoring program that can load the
pcm_dvd enabled .mpg file and create the DVD video structure and
iso from it?<br>
I shortly tried DVD Styler, ManDVD and Bombono DVD, but got lost in
their forced project start.<br>
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DeVeDe:<br>
So I installed and tried "DeVeDe(NG)" - a
"Video DVD creator" program I had never heard
about before recently<br>
<a
href="https://www.xmodulo.com/create-video-dvd-linux-desktop.html"
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With DeVeDe I managed to create the video DVD
structure and ISO, and it offered to burn the
iso with K3b automatically,<br>
With its Property/Misch buttons the selection
in the middle offered:<br>
*Repack audio and video without reencoding
(Useful for VOB files)<br>
<br>
The problem is that the Audio (PCM)
disappeared from the dv28.mpg input file<br>
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The burned DVD from iso:<br>
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tree ./DVDVIDEO -sh<br>
<blockquote>./DVDVIDEO<br>
├── [ 40] AUDIO_TS<br>
└── [ 612] VIDEO_TS<br>
├── [ 12K] VIDEO_TS.BUP<br>
├── [ 12K] VIDEO_TS.IFO<br>
├── [ 32K] VIDEO_TS.VOB<br>
├── [ 18K] VTS_01_0.BUP<br>
├── [ 18K] VTS_01_0.IFO<br>
├── [3.6M] VTS_01_0.VOB<br>
├── [ 32K] VTS_01_1.VOB<br>
├── [ 18K] VTS_02_0.BUP<br>
├── [ 18K] VTS_02_0.IFO<br>
├── [ 32K] VTS_02_0.VOB<br>
└── [133M] VTS_02_1.VOB<br>
</blockquote>
2 directories, 11 files<br>
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The structure and iso created on HDD:<br>
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tree . -sh<br>
<blockquote>.<br>
├── [138M] dv28_DVD.iso<br>
├── [4.0K] dvd_tree<br>
│ ├── [4.0K] AUDIO_TS<br>
│ └── [4.0K] VIDEO_TS<br>
│ ├── [ 12K] VIDEO_TS.BUP<br>
│ ├── [ 12K] VIDEO_TS.IFO<br>
│ ├── [ 32K] VIDEO_TS.VOB<br>
│ ├── [ 18K] VTS_01_0.BUP<br>
│ ├── [ 18K] VTS_01_0.IFO<br>
│ ├── [3.6M] VTS_01_0.VOB<br>
│ ├── [ 32K] VTS_01_1.VOB<br>
│ ├── [ 18K] VTS_02_0.BUP<br>
│ ├── [ 18K] VTS_02_0.IFO<br>
│ ├── [ 32K] VTS_02_0.VOB<br>
│ └── [133M] VTS_02_1.VOB<br>
├── [4.0K] menu<br>
│ ├── [2.0K] menu_0_active_bg.png<br>
│ ├── [ 64K] menu_0_bg.png<br>
│ ├── [3.6M] menu_0B.mpg<br>
│ ├── [3.6M] menu_0.mpg<br>
│ ├── [2.0K] menu_0_selected_bg.png<br>
│ ├── [1.7K] menu_0_unselected_bg.png<br>
│ └── [ 442] menu_0.xml<br>
├── [4.0K] movies<br>
│ └── [133M] movie_0.mpg<br>
└── [4.0K] xml_data<br>
└── [1.7K] dvdauthor.xml<br>
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6 directories, 21 files<br>
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