<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 14 апр. 2023 г., 06:33 Rob Prowel via Cin <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 4/13/23 20:57, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:<br>
>>> Last summer I put out an ad for a 10 week CinGG summer of code with the<br>
>>> title of "Linux / C++ beginner / student" with an enticement of $400 each<br>
>>> week for compiling, execution of well outlined steps, and make mods to the<br>
>>> "burn" plugin to just add the gui variables. I thought someone might like<br>
>>> the challenge and could put in a few hours each week (before and after<br>
>>> "aging" plugin gui mods would serve as a guideline).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Response from Ernest Ibarra was "he was interested" and had a "Mac Pro<br>
>>> with Ubuntu and also had 3 years of C++ knowledge". Pointed him to the<br>
>>> Manual on how to build CinGG and he sent me a screenshot showing a built<br>
>>> version. So I assumed he was able to do a build which would mean he had to<br>
>>> have done a compile??<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ibarra was paid $400 a week for 4 weeks just to experiment with coding<br>
>>> but by the end of the 4th week he reported "having a really hard time<br>
>>> compiling" just the plugin. I suggested he do a full compile with his<br>
>>> modifications in (since supposedly he had compiled the whole program at<br>
>>> least once, right?).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ernest Ibarra stopped replying to my emails after 4 weeks of PayPal<br>
>>> payments by June 28th. Finally on July 19th, after receiving another 2<br>
>>> weeks (total $2400) I asked Ibarra to send me the code that he could not<br>
>>> get to compile so I could compile it myself but never heard back. BIG<br>
>>> DISAPPOINTMENT -- should not 3 years of C++ be enough for a competent<br>
>>> programmer to work on a very small part of Cinelerra? So I am closing BT<br>
>>> #62 as being a HUGE FAILURE -- at least with Ernest Ibarra.<br>
>>><br>
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I've been coding for 35+ years, and have even designed hardenned systems <br>
that run on spacefraft, and while my comment is in no way meant to <br>
disparage the folks who volunteer to code and fix cinGG, I wouldn't <br>
touch the codebase with a 10 foot pole in its current state. It can <br>
loosely be defined as C++, but nothing in it is anywhere near modern C++ <br>
best-practice coding, and internal documentation doesn't exist. </blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Well, feel free to try working with</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://github.com/olive-editor/olive">https://github.com/olive-editor/olive</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">for example. [or Openshot, they had new release lately]. I am too curious for *not* looking everywhere, so eventually it will find its way at least back to mail list!</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> The <br>
only thing that keeps it chugging along are the countless hours of a few <br>
folks who have been into it long enough and deeply enough to know what <br>
is where.<br>
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I'd be more inclined to say "did you learn your lesson?" to anyone who <br>
offered money to someone for cinGG coding updates.<br>
<br>
And FWIW, I know many 10-15 year software engineers who lack talent, but <br>
can continue to earn a living because qualitative productivity isn't <br>
valued anymore.<br>
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