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                        <div>Den 05.06.2023 16:14, skrev Andrew
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                                                      Den 31.05.2023
                                                      07:24, skrev
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                                                      Cin:<br>
                                                      > I ......<br>
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                                                      > ===<br>
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                                                      > and mpeg2enc
                                                      line looked like
                                                      this<br>
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                                                      >
                                                      FileMPEG::open_file:
                                                      Running<br>
                                                      >
                                                      /dev/shm/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin//mpeg2enc
                                                      -v 0  -b 8000 -q 1
                                                      -a 2<br>
                                                      > -F 3 -H -c -I
                                                      1 -M 4 -z b -f 8
                                                      -g 15 -G 15 -R 0
                                                      -o<br>
                                                      >
                                                      '/dev/shm/tmp/dvd_20230531-081921/dvd.m2v'<br>
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                                                      Is it possible to
                                                      get the mpeg2enc
                                                      command line to
                                                      test it with a dv
                                                      <br>
                                                      input file
                                                      directly outside
                                                      Cinelerra?<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">try line
                                                  like this?</div>
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                                                  <pre>ffmpeg -i input.dv -f yuv4mpegpipe - \</pre>
                                                  <pre> |mpeg2enc {flags and output file as shown }</pre>
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                                            Yes, this fixed the BFF
                                            issue, but still Interlaced
                                            and 4:3 format.<br>
                                            Stream #0:0: Video:
                                            mpeg2video (Main),
                                            yuv420p(tv, bt470bg, bottom
                                            first), 720x576 [SAR 16:15
                                            DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr,
                                            1200k tbn<br>
                                            <br>
                                            What I want is to get and
                                            try Progressive and 16:9
                                            wide format. By cropping
                                            720x576 to 720x405, bottom
                                            65 and top 106 (top)
                                            preserves the displayed
                                            timestam at bottom.<br>
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                                    <div dir="auto">Then you should try
                                      ffmpeg's deinterlacing and
                                      cropping before passing it to
                                      mpeg2enc.</div>
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                        I tried <br>
                        ffmpeg -i dv01.dv -aspect 16:9 -vf
                        crop=iw-0-0:ih-106-65:0:106 -f yuv4mpegpipe -<br>
                        that resulted in interlaced bff:<br>
                        Stream #0:0: Video: mpeg2video (Main),
                        yuv420p(tv, bt470bg, bottom first), 720x404 [SAR
                        101:135 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 1200k tbn<br>
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                <div dir="auto">I think mpeg2enc part of full cmd line
                  need their own tweaks relative to one you get from
                  cingg, for progressive and aspect ratio corrected
                  output .....</div>
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    Here were a lot to sort out:<br>
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    The dvd-wide-ffmpeg+mpeg2enc.m2v from here is also scaled or
    streched too high in vertical direction.<br>
    VLC deinterlaced on playback  (keyboard D) on interlaced m2v gives
    better quality.<br>
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                        In comparision the ffmpeg command line I have
                        used is:<br>
                        ffmpeg  -i dv01.dv -f dvd -target pal-dvd
                        -aspect 16:9 -vb 8000k -mbd rd -trellis 1 -cmp 0
                        -subcmp 2 -vf crop=iw-0-0:ih-106-65:0:<br>
                        which results in progressive and DAR 16:9, but
                        still not so good edge quality<br>
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        <div dir="auto">May be "progressive" here is error, and ffmpeg
          still encodes interlaced-as-progressive, so VLC for example
          does not enable deinterlacer at playback automatically?</div>
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    VLC Deinterlaced ON playback of Progressive  dvd-wide-dv01.mpg
    results in more coarced jagged or saw-toothed round edges<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Have you tried to add interlaced flags manually
          to ffmpeg's command line?</div>
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    -flags +ilme+ildct  gives interlaced bff<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Did you also tried to force deinterlacer in VLC?
          (or may be xine).</div>
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        <div dir="auto">I hope my next mail contain enough of filtering
          lines for you to try after interlaced crop.</div>
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                        Stream #0:0[0x1bf]: Data: dvd_nav_packet<br>
                          Stream #0:1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main),
                        yuv420p(tv, progressive), 720x576 [SAR 64:45 DAR
                        16:9], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn<br>
                            Side data:<br>
                              cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 9000000/0/0
                        buffer size: 1835008 vbv_delay: N/A<br>
                          Stream #0:2[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz,
                        stereo, fltp, 448 kb/s<br>
                        Unsupported codec with id 98312 for input stream
                        0<br>
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                            <div dir="auto">talks about some algos on
                              ffmpeg I never considered:</div>
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                              <h3><span style="font-size:21.06px">Estdif
                                  / </span>Bwdif</h3>
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                                <div dir="auto">TS. bwdif           
                                   V->V       Deinterlace the input
                                  image.</div>
                                <div dir="auto"> TSC estdif           
                                  V->V       Apply Edge Slope Tracing
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                        Yes, of interest if I knew how to put this into
                        the ffmpeg command line above, with reference to
                        the blog:<br>
                        <i><b>Bwdif (FFMPEG): </b></i><i>Good at
                          reconstructing smooth lines and retaining
                          overall image detail with SD content, faster
                          than QTGMC but not as good.<br>
                        </i><i><b><a
href="https://macilatthefront.blogspot.com/2021/01/deinterlacing-with-avisynth-and-qtgmc.html"
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                          Best retention of original image detail and
                          handling of edge case artifacts,<br>
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                                    <div dir="auto">Can you clarify even
                                      with my patches AND deinterlacing
                                      checkbox set in dvd creation
                                      window and "use ffmpeg" unchecked
                                      you still get interlaced?</div>
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                        I can do it, when it is included with the next
                        Cin apps.<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">quite
                                                  amazing ffmpeg in this
                                                  most basic case still
                                                  works after nearly 20
                                                  years, line stolen
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                                            Creating DVD with typical
                                            ffmpeg decoding to raw video
                                            piped to mpeg2enc for
                                            encoding has been the usual
                                            way as described in the
                                            Cin-CV manual <br>
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                                            and is also included in
                                            Ruh's dvd guid sec. 3.4<br>
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                                            mpeg2enc is said to give
                                            some higher quality at high
                                            bitrate that ffmpeg.<br>
                                            The drawback is it is slow
                                            and audio and to be added
                                            and multiplexed<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">For
                                                  ffmpeg as I said cingg
                                                  does NOT  use command
                                                  line ffmpeg, so you
                                                  need to modify profile
                                                  parameters in dvd.dvd
                                                  file.</div>
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                                                      And preferably
                                                      also a
                                                      corresponding
                                                      ffmpeg command
                                                      line.<br>
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                                                      I had already
                                                      created a .mpg
                                                      video file,
                                                      interlaced and
                                                      bff, and it was <br>
                                                      no better, so I
                                                      think deinterlaced
                                                      (progressive) will
                                                      be best.<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">your
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