<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">сб, 26 авг. 2023 г., 10:54 Igor BEGHETTO via Cin <<a href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry for the late about your work on the Manual.<br>
I think that it would be better create this "Differences" section in a <br>
another PDF, no inside the Cin-GG Manual.<br>
<br>
About Canvas for the Timeline, as reported in an other thread <br>
(<a href="https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2023-August/006852.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/pipermail/cin/2023-August/006852.html</a>), <br>
for me is a mistake to compare Timeline with Canvas and I don't <br>
understand why we should explain what is Timeline for. The Andrea_paz's <br>
exemple is more correct for the Compositor area: that is the area where <br>
all is "drawn", from a user point of view.<br>
<br>
For me Clip and Edit are the same, but Andrea_paz explained well to <br>
understand better how to distinguish them in Cinelerra.<br>
<br>
I think Users would take many advantages if a few of shortcuts could be <br>
changed to standard shortcuts. I know, or I belive, that is not possible <br>
to create custom User shortcuts because Cinelerra-GG is not create with <br>
this feature, unfortunately. Some time ago I had suggested if it was <br>
possible to change some of them with the approval of the majority of <br>
users. I guess that older users don't want that.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Main problem those keyboard commands spread all over codebase, so changing them can be a chore ... also, I need to think how it will look programmatically (not tried this more strategic part yet!)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for possible mappings, I try to save them for (possible) later use.</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Changing some shortcuts to a NLE's standard shortcuts.<br>
For example: J - K - L (Play Normal reverse - Stop- Play Normal forward)<br>
if pressed twice J (or L), its Play Fast or <br>
Normal.<br>
I - O (InPoint - OutPoint)<br>
A - S (Jump backwards next cut - Jump forwards next cut)<br>
<br>
If an shortcut on After column has a '+' symbol (for example: + 'I'),<br>
it means that it is added at the old shortcut/s on Before column<br>
and also that that shortcut has been take from an old shortcut (of course),<br>
which it has another key.<br>
(Capital letters in the After column do not mean Shift key is pressed)<br>
----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+<br>
Description | Shortcut<br>
| Before | After<br>
----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+<br>
-To clip | 'i' | Ctrl+I<br>
-Scroll window timeline... left | LeftArrow, ',' | LeftArrow<br>
-Scroll window timeline... right | RightArrow, '. | RightArrow<br>
-Label | 'l' | ''' (single quote)<br>
-Go to | 'g' | Ctrl+G<br>
-Generate keyframes... tweeking | 'j' | 'G'<br>
-Jump forward... next Keyframes | 'k' | Shift+Right Arrow<br>
-Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+K | Shift+Left Arrow<br>
-New Project... | 'n' | Ctrl+N<br>
-Load files... | 'o' | Ctrl+O<br>
-Save | 's' | Ctrl+S<br>
-Save as... | Shift+S | Ctrl+Shift+S<br>
-Save Session | Ctrl+S | (null)<br>
-Select-> All | 'a' | Ctrl+A<br>
-Deselect All | 'a' or null | Ctrl+Shift+A<br>
-Undo | 'z', Ctrl+Z | Ctrl+Z<br>
-Redo | Shift+Z | Shift+Z<br>
-InPoint | '[', '<' | + 'I'<br>
-OutPoint | ']', '>' | + 'O'<br>
-Play Normal reverse | NumKP 6, Alt+O | + 'J' Normal&Fast<br>
-Play Stop | NumKP 0, Alt+M | + 'K'<br>
-Play Normal forward | NumKP 3, Alt+L | + 'L' Normal&Fast<br>
-Jump backwards to the next cut | Alt+LeftArrow | + 'A'<br>
-Jump forwards to the next cut | Alt+RightArrow | + 'S'<br>
-One Frame back | NumKP 4, Alt+U | + ',' (comma)<br>
-One Frame forward | NumKP 1, Alt+J | + '.' (period)<br>
| |<br>
-Load window: Select All files | Ctrl+A | Ctrl+A<br>
-Load window: Deselect All files | Ctrl+Z | Ctrl+Shift+A<br>
-BD Render... | Ctrl+Shift+d | (null)<br>
-DVD Render... | Alt+d | (null)<br>
-Delete last track | 'd'->Ctrl+D | Ctrl+D<br>
-Quit | 'q' | Ctrl+Q<br>
-Settings-> Save settings now | Ctrl+Shift+S | Shift+S<br>
-Settings-> Align cursor on frames| Ctrl+A | Ctrl+F<br>
----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+<br>
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To summarize the jumps backwards and forward:<br>
----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+<br>
-Jump backwards to the next cut | Alt+LeftArrow, 'A'<br>
-Jump forwards to the next cut | Alt+RightArrow, 'S'<br>
-Jump backwards to the next label | Ctrl+LeftArrow<br>
-Jump forwards to the next label | Ctrl+RightArrow<br>
-Jump backwards... next Keyframes | Shift+LeftArrow<br>
-Jump forward... next Keyframes | Shift+RightArrow<br>
-Jump backwards to the next Autos | Ctrl+Shift+Alt+LeftArrow<br>
-Jump forward to the next Autos | Ctrl+Shift+Alt+RightArrow<br>
----------------------------------+-------------------+-------------------+<br>
"Shift+K" and "Ctrl+Shift+K" no longer used.<br>
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Thanks! ...Igorbeg<br>
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Il 25/08/2023 19:19, Andrea paz via Cin ha scritto:<br>
> @All<br>
> Other issue. As I report the differences, I become more and more<br>
> convinced that I don't like to see this section in the manual. It<br>
> gives me the idea that those who read it will lose the motivation to<br>
> learn CinGG and go back to the other programs. I propose another<br>
> possibility: create a separate pdf to put in our git (similar to your<br>
> QuickStart) and leave only a note and download link in the manual.<br>
> What do you think? I am undecided which is the best solution so I am<br>
> asking for your advice.<br>
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