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г., 20:32 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <<a
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<blockquote type="cite"> Already touched this
topic barely in another thread<br>
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But so many SW and HW pieces are mentioned
around, it is almost a full-time reading and
study:<br>
VAAPI, MESA, VULKAN, Intel Quick Sync Video
etc......<br>
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I realize my aging hardware which is fast
enough for other tasks, needs some "AV1
upgrade", if possible.<br>
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But first I wonder, what is expected possible
to do (obtain) with AV1 de-/encoding on my
existing 64bit hardware:<br>
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<blockquote><font face="monospace">1) laptop
2018: Dell XPS 13-9370: quad core i7-8550U
CPU (8. gen Kabylake) and Intel UHD
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<font face="monospace">2) WS infinity: MSI
Z170A mobo: quad core i7-6700K CPU (6.
gen Skylake), NVIDIA GeForce GT-730
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I continue the "AV1 de-/encoding on my existing
64bit hardware" question above as a branch here
(instead of a new related thread).<br>
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This part is also related to another 2021
thread, [Cin] tried to update av1.webm profile<br>
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which refere to FFmpeg's AV1 Video Encoding
Guide <br>
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I took my first AV1 rendering test with CinGGs default av1.webm
preset by loading a standard SD DV file clip.<br>
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<blockquote><font face="monospace">du -sh dv*</font><br>
<font face="monospace">389M dv01_07.dv</font><br>
<font face="monospace">30M dv01_07.webm</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">ffprobe -hide_banner dv01_07.dv</font><br>
<font face="monospace">[dv @ 0x5595e79b4580] Estimating duration
from bitrate, this may be inaccurate</font><br>
<font face="monospace">Input #0, dv, from 'dv01_07.dv':</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Metadata:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> timecode : 01:09:35:09</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Duration: 00:01:53.28, start: 0.000000,
bitrate: 28800 kb/s</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv420p,
720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn,
25 tbc</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz,
stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">ffprobe -hide_banner dv01_07.webm</font><br>
<font face="monospace">[libdav1d @ 0x560ccddb3380] libdav1d 1.0.0</font><br>
<font face="monospace">Input #0, matroska,webm, from
'dv01_07.webm':</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Metadata:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> ENCODER : Lavf60.16.100</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Duration: 00:01:53.28, start: 0.000000,
bitrate: 2220 kb/s</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Stream #0:0: Video: av1 (Main),
yuv420p(tv, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 720x576 [SAR 1:1 DAR 5:4],
25 fps, 25 tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Metadata:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> DURATION : 00:01:53.243000000</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Stream #0:1: Audio: vorbis, 48000 Hz,
stereo, fltp</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Metadata:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> DURATION : 00:01:53.281000000</font><br>
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Rendering took 0:03:33 or 1.87 x the Duration<br>
This webm file was displayed ok in VLC and FFplay on Leap 15.5<br>
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<div> To start with the workstation 2) above, I
want suggestions how to test the possible AV1
encoding options (libaom, SVT-AV1, MESA, VAAPI,
VDPAU) using my system enabled ffmpeg 6.0.1
commands,, and also suggestions to required
change in system/graphics settings.<br>
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System output as background info:<br>
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<blockquote><font face="monospace">fmpeg
-encoders -hide_banner | grep av1</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> V....D
libaom-av1 libaom AV1 (codec av1)</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> V....D
librav1e librav1e AV1 (codec
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<div dir="auto">From phoronix articles librav1e and
SVT-AV1 should be faster, but sometimes at quality
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<div dir="auto">Sorry, not tried them personally due to
svt demanding 64-bit system and rav1e demanding rust.</div>
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<div dir="auto">So for this task you are on your own ..
sorry!</div>
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<div dir="auto">may be crf 26 (ish) and preset 6 ?</div>
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<div dir="auto">On 36 core machine with avx512 it surely was
fast, but on 4c .. I guess 1.25 fps or so will be best you can
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<font face="monospace"> V.....
libsvtav1 SVT-AV1(Scalable Video
Technology for AV1) encoder (codec av1)</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> V....D
av1_nvenc NVIDIA NVENC av1
encoder (codec av1)</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> V....D
av1_amf AMD AMF AV1 encoder
(codec av1)</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> A....D
wmav1 Windows Media Audio 1</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">libaom3 v. 3,7.1</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">libSvtAv1Enc1 v. 1.7.0</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">libva-vdpau-driver v.
0.7.4</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">vainfo</font><br>
<font face="monospace">Trying display: wayland</font><br>
<font face="monospace">error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
is invalid or not set in the environment.</font><br>
<font face="monospace">Trying display: x11</font><br>
<font face="monospace">libva info: VA-API
version 1.20.0</font><br>
<font face="monospace">libva info: Trying to
open /usr/lib64/dri/nouveau_drv_video.so</font><br>
<font face="monospace">libva info: Found init
function __vaDriverInit_1_20</font><br>
<font face="monospace">libva info:
va_openDriver() returns 0</font><br>
<font face="monospace">vainfo: VA-API version:
1.20 (libva 2.20.0)</font><br>
<font face="monospace">vainfo: Driver version:
Mesa Gallium driver 23.2.1 for NV106</font><br>
<font face="monospace">vainfo: Supported
profile and entrypoints</font><br>
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VAProfileNone :
VAEntrypointVideoProc</font><br>
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<font face="monospace">inxi -zdGCS</font><br>
<font face="monospace">System:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Kernel:
6.6.1-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: GNOME v: 45.1</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Distro: openSUSE
Tumbleweed-Slowroll 20231119</font><br>
<font face="monospace">CPU:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Info: quad core
model: Intel Core i7-6700K bits: 64 type: MT
MCP cache:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> L2: 1024 KiB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Speed (MHz): avg: 800
min/max: 800/4200 cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3:
800 4: 800</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> 5: 800 6: 800 7:
800 8: 800</font><br>
<font face="monospace">Graphics:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Device-1: NVIDIA
GK208B [GeForce GT 730] driver: nouveau v:
kernel</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Device-2: Microdia
Camera driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo type:
USB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Device-3:
MACROSILICON USB3.0 UHD</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> driver:
hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid,uvcvideo
type: USB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Display: server:
X.org v: 1.21.1.9 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2
driver: X:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> loaded: nouveau
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri:
nouveau gpu: nouveau</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> resolution:
2560x1440~60Hz</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> API: OpenGL v: 4.3
vendor: mesa v: 23.2.1 renderer: NV106</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> API: EGL Message: EGL
data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.</font><br>
<font face="monospace">Drives:</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Local Storage: total:
8.8 TiB used: 5.02 TiB (57.1%)</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1
vendor: Samsung model: MZVPV512HDGL-00000</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> size: 476.94 GiB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> ID-2: /dev/sda
vendor: Intel model: SSDSA2CW160G3 size:
149.05 GiB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> ID-3: /dev/sdb
vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size:
465.76 GiB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> ID-4: /dev/sdc
vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size:
465.76 GiB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> ID-5: /dev/sdd
vendor: Seagate model: Expansion HDD size:
7.28 TiB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> type: USB</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Optical-1: /dev/sr0
vendor: HL-DT-ST model: BD-RE BH10LS30</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> dev-links: cdrom</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> Features: speed: 40
multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes</font><br>
<font face="monospace"> rw:
cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram</font><br>
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