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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 16.07.2024 13:19, skrev Andrew
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                <div>Den 16.07.2024 11:46, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 16 июл.
                          2024 г., 12:34 Terje J. Hanssen <<a
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                            Does this also mean that it is not possible
                            to make a "smart", common CinGG version that
                            has multibit capability for all encoding,
                            x264 and x265 included?<br>
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                    <div dir="auto">this should be current *-multibit
                      version, but as Andrea noticed it might be slower
                      at regular x265 8bit encodes.</div>
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                          <div> I wonder why I didn't get the following
                            encoding formats to work<br>
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                                av1_svt_yuv420p_cfhd01.webm</font><br>
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                                av1_vaapi_yuv420p_cfhd01.webm</font><br>
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                There should also be more 10-bit pixel formats available
                as extracted from my previous post:<br>
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                <blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cfhd:    
                    yuv422p10le gbrp12le gbrap12le</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">libx265:  
                    yuv420p10le yuv422p10le yuv444p10le gbrp10le
                    yuv420p12le yuv422p12le yuv444p12le gbrp12le gray
                    gray10le gray12le</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">libsvtav1:
                    yuv420p10le</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">av1_qsv:  
                    nv12 p010le qsv</font></blockquote>
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        <div dir="auto">you tried to set pixel format dropdown menu
          after choosing preset?</div>
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    Probably I missed that some preset steps (Compression?) on the
    Render menu.<br>
    I found now 10bit more yuv422p10le for x265 and svt, but still not
    yet for av1_vaapi.<br>
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                          <div> And won't it be possible to enable Intel
                            qsv etc. hwaccel support with CinGG's
                            "internal ffmpeg", when it is available for
                            my system ffmpeg? </div>
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                    <div dir="auto">in theory yes, just figure out that
                      switch you need to pass to ffmpeg for that (ffmpeg
                      should print it in its banner ) and add it
                      to  FFMPEG_EXTRA_CFG=" --your-switch
                      --your-second-switch" environmental variable set
                      via export command before you run <a
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                I meant pre-build with CinGG.<br>
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        <div dir="auto">well, problem is, if we compile cingg for
          whatever new libs for ffmpeg exist - running it on system
          where such libs are at wrong version may result in weird
          crashes etc? Appimage helps with some of them, but sadly not
          with hw-assisted de/encoding .....</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Why you are so reluctant to compiling cingg
          yourself? You have enough cou/memory/hdd space ....</div>
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    Well, actually I had begun to think about it, and might do a second
    attempt later on (winter work), so this was possibly a kick on the
    way ;)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2016q1/003834.html">https://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/pipermail/cinelerra/2016q1/003834.html</a><br>
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    In the meantime, is there differences between a "System Built" and a
    "Single User built" with regards to updated procedures and utilizing
    the system ffmpeg, libs and gpu performance?<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/How_Build_CINELERRA_GG_from.html">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/How_Build_CINELERRA_GG_from.html</a><br>
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    I remember a fun anecdote from my first Unix (the) book, 1982
    (translated 1985), in the chapter about 'ed' and 'vi'. They referred
    to inner circle Unix programmers who used to say: "Real hackers do
    it with ed" 😎<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Some 20+ years ago I was distrohopping a bit
          because nearly every single distro was compiling mplayer just
          slightly wrong. Then I just stopped worrying about distro
          versions  and embrace gcc .... </div>
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        <div dir="auto">with whole set of deps being that long I think
          having source copy and poke it from time to time is
          reasonable? </div>
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        <div dir="auto">I can't stop whole world from doing this style
          of development, even if personally I dislike being in focal
          point of breaking changes from all sides!</div>
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                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">A hwaccel
                  listing from my system ffmpeg:<br>
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                    -hide_banner -encoders | grep qsv</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V.....
                    av1_qsv              AV1 (Intel Quick Sync Video
                    acceleration) (codec av1)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V.....
                    h264_qsv             H.264 / AVC / MPEG-4 AVC /
                    MPEG-4 part 10 (Intel Quick Sync Video acceleration)
                    (codec h264)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V.....
                    hevc_qsv             HEVC (Intel Quick Sync Video
                    acceleration) (codec hevc)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V.....
                    mjpeg_qsv            MJPEG (Intel Quick Sync Video
                    acceleration) (codec mjpeg)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V.....
                    mpeg2_qsv            MPEG-2 video (Intel Quick Sync
                    Video acceleration) (codec mpeg2video)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V.....
                    vp9_qsv              VP9 video (Intel Quick Sync
                    Video acceleration) (codec vp9)</font><br>
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                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">ffmpeg
                    -hide_banner -encoders | grep amf</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V....D
                    av1_amf              AMD AMF AV1 encoder (codec av1)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V....D
                    h264_amf             AMD AMF H.264 Encoder (codec
                    h264)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V....D
                    hevc_amf             AMD AMF HEVC encoder (codec
                    hevc)</font><br>
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                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">ffmpeg
                    -hide_banner -encoders | grep nvenc</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V....D
                    av1_nvenc            NVIDIA NVENC av1 encoder (codec
                    av1)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V....D
                    h264_nvenc           NVIDIA NVENC H.264 encoder
                    (codec h264)</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> V....D
                    hevc_nvenc           NVIDIA NVENC hevc encoder
                    (codec hevc)<br>
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                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">And the
                  ffmpeg banner:<br>
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                <blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">ffmpeg
                    version 7.0 Copyright (c) 2000-2024 the FFmpeg
                    developers</font><br>
                  <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">  built
                    with gcc 13 (SUSE Linux)</font><br>
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                    configuration: --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib64
                    --shlibdir=/usr/lib64 --incdir=/usr/include/ffmpeg
                    --extra-cflags='-O2 -Wall -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE
                    -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -fstack-protector-strong
                    -funwind-tables -fasynchronous-unwind-tables
                    -fstack-clash-protection -Werror=return-type
                    -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -g' --optflags='-O2
                    -Wall -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3
                    -fstack-protector-strong -funwind-tables
                    -fasynchronous-unwind-tables
                    -fstack-clash-protection -Werror=return-type
                    -flto=auto -ffat-lto-objects -g' --disable-htmlpages
                    --enable-pic --disable-stripping --enable-shared
                    --disable-static --enable-gpl --enable-version3
                    --enable-libsmbclient --disable-openssl
                    --enable-gnutls --enable-ladspa --enable-libshaderc
                    --enable-vulkan --enable-libplacebo --enable-libaom
                    --enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libbs2b
                    --enable-libcdio --enable-libcodec2
                    --enable-libdav1d --enable-libdc1394 --enable-libdrm
                    --enable-libfontconfig --enable-libfreetype
                    --enable-libfribidi --enable-libgsm --enable-libjack
                    --enable-libjxl --enable-librist --enable-libmp3lame
                    --enable-libmysofa --enable-libopenjpeg
                    --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopenh264-dlopen
                    --enable-libopus --enable-libpulse --enable-librav1e
                    --enable-librubberband --enable-libsvtav1
                    --enable-libsoxr --enable-libspeex --enable-libssh
                    --enable-libsrt --enable-libtheora
                    --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvidstab
                    --enable-libvmaf --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx
                    --enable-libwebp --enable-libxml2 --enable-libzimg
                    --enable-libzmq --enable-libzvbi --enable-lto
                    --enable-lv2 --enable-libvpl --enable-vaapi
                    --enable-vdpau --enable-version3
                    --enable-libfdk-aac-dlopen --enable-nonfree
                    --enable-libopencore-amrnb
                    --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libvo-amrwbenc
                    --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid</font><br>
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