<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">чт, 24 окт. 2024 г., 22:31 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <div>Den 24.10.2024 18:50, skrev Andrew
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">чт, 24 окт. 2024 г., 19:29
              Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                <div>Den 24.10.2024 15:37, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">чт, 24 окт.
                          2024 г., 12:40 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                            <div>Den 23.10.2024 22:59, skrev Andrew
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                                      23 окт. 2024 г., 23:44 Terje J.
                                      Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                                        <div>Den 23.10.2024 21:25, skrev
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                                          <div>Den 18.10.2024 20:56,
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                                                    21:45 Terje J.
                                                    Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пт, 18 окт. 2024 г., 19:30 Terje J. Hanssen <<a href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
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                                                          09:08, skrev
                                                          Andrew
                                                          Randrianasulu:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">Can
                                                          you try
                                                          attached
                                                          patch?
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">default
                                                          to off, so
                                                          should be
                                                          safe?</div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          Can you detail
                                                          the basic
                                                          steps to do
                                                          it?<br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">as
                                                          always</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">backup
                                                          what you think
                                                          is important
                                                          (qsv/vaapi
                                                          profiles,
                                                          notably)</div>
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                                                      <br>
                                                      Will my custom
                                                      built Cingg using
                                                      my system ffmpeg
                                                      be overwritten?<br>
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                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                              <div dir="auto">yes, so</div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div dir="auto">1) put
                                                this bin folder away
                                                somewhere</div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div dir="auto">2) may be
                                                try to use appimage tool
                                                for making your own
                                                appimage out of it.</div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                                        <div dir="auto">
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                                                          <div dir="auto">make
                                                          clean</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">git
                                                          am patch</div>
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                                          <br>
                                          Does this comprise just the
                                          onevpl.patch or also other
                                          patches on the current list?<br>
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                                          <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">localhost:/Cin # ls -1 *.patch<br>
0001-Add-nv12-as-def.-pixformat-for-qsv-profiles-clarify-.patch<br>
0001-Fix-build-in-makeappimage-for-boost-1.85.patch<br>
0001-Qsv-encoders-for-testing.patch<br>
0001-Update-README-build-instructions.patch<br>
                                            0002-Add-BUGS.patch<br>
0002-Modify-remaining-_qsv-orofiles-to-use-nv12-fix-typo-.patch<br>
0002-makeappimage-tool-add-algorithm-incl-into-core.cpp.patch<br>
                                            0003-Add-DESCRIPTION.patch<br>
                                            alt_shortcuts.patch<br>
                                            onevpl.patch<br>
                                          </font><br>
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                                        </blockquote>
                                        I applied <br>
                                        <br>
                                        <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">git am  onevpl.patch</font><br>
                                        <br>
                                        first, before "make clean", and
                                        a second time after "make clean"
                                        in case this order was
                                        necessary.<br>
                                        Then I got this output:<br>
                                        <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><br>
                                          localhost:/Cin # git am
                                          onevpl.patch<br>
                                          Applying: Add onevpl support
                                          to build system<br>
                                          error: patch failed:
                                          cinelerra-5.1/<a href="http://configure.ac:86" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">configure.ac:86</a><br>
                                          error: cinelerra-5.1/<a href="http://configure.ac" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">configure.ac</a>:
                                          patch does not apply<br>
                                          error: patch failed:
                                          cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/Makefile:136<br>
                                          error:
                                          cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty/Makefile:
                                          patch does not apply<br>
                                          Patch failed at 0001 Add
                                          onevpl support to build system<br>
                                          hint: Use 'git am
                                          --show-current-patch=diff' to
                                          see the failed patch<br>
                                          hint: When you have resolved
                                          this problem, run "git am
                                          --continue".<br>
                                          hint: If you prefer to skip
                                          this patch, run "git am
                                          --skip" instead.<br>
                                          hint: To restore the original
                                          branch and stop patching, run
                                          "git am --abort".<br>
                                          hint: Disable this message
                                          with "git config
                                          advice.mergeConflict false"</font><br>
                                        <br>
                                        Is this message due to the
                                        second attempt, and is safe to
                                        continue from here with the next
                                        steps below?<br>
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                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto">yeah, you only need to
                                  apply patch once.</div>
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                            </blockquote>
                            <br>
                            Should I apply more than than the
                            onevpl.patch?<br>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">I think no? At least I was testing
                      it standalone</div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                              <div dir="auto">
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                </div>
                                <div dir="auto">if you have "gitk"
                                  installed you can run that and observe
                                  content of top patch or any patch in
                                  tree in tcl/tk gui.</div>
                                <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                                        <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          <div dir="auto">./autogen.sh</div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">./configure
--with-single-user --with-onevpl<br>
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                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
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                            <br>
                            What's broken here, lvpl no - onevpl error?<br>
                            <br>
                            <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">localhost:/Cin
                              # ./configure --with-single-user
                              --with-onevpl<br>
                              configure: loading site script
                              /usr/share/site/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu<br>
                              checking for a BSD-compatible install...
                              /usr/bin/install -c<br>
                              checking whether sleep supports fractional
                              seconds... yes<br>
                              checking filesystem timestamp
                              resolution... 0.01<br>
                              checking whether build environment is
                              sane... yes<br>
                              .........snip<br>
                              checking for vaGetDisplayDRM in
                              -lva-drm... yes<br>
                              checking for MFXCreateSession in -lvpl...
                              no<br>
                              configure: error: requires onevpl support.</font></div>
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                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">hm, do you have -devel package from
                      onevpl installed?</div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
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                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">No, at
                  least not currently<br>
                  <br>
                  # zypper se libvpl<br>
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                  S  | Name                |
Summary                                                                  
                  | Type<br>
---+---------------------+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------<br>
                     | libvpl              | oneAPI Video Processing
                  Library (oneVPL) dispatcher, tools, and examples  |
                  package<br>
                     | libvpl-devel        | Development files for
                  oneAPI Video Processing Library (oneVPL) dispatcher |
                  package<br>
                     | libvpl-tools        | Intel Video Processing
                  Library (Intel VPL) Tools                          |
                  srcpackage<br>
                  i+ | libvpl-tools        | Intel Video Processing
                  Library (Intel VPL) Tools                          |
                  package<br>
                     | libvpl-tools-devel  | Development files for
                  libvpl-tools                                        |
                  package<br>
                  i  | libvpl2             | oneAPI Video Processing
                  Library (oneVPL) dispatcher                       |
                  package<br>
                     | libvpl_wayland1_0_0 | Runtime library for
                  libvpl-tools                                         
                  | package<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Not sure about libvpl vs libvpl2, but add-installed
                  the rest of not available libvpl- packages<br>
                  <br>
                  # zypper in libvpl libvpl-devel libvpl-tools-devel
                  libvpl_wayland1_0_0<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
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                  <div dir="auto">
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">what "pkg-config --libs vpl"
                      /"pkg-config --cflags vpl" say?</div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
                Then <br>
                <br>
                <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">#
                  pkg-config --libs vpl<br>
                  -L/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/../ -lvpl -ldl -lstdc++<br>
                  <br>
                  # pkg-config --cflags vpl<br>
                  -I/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/../../include
                  -I/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/../../include/vpl<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Reconfigure<br>
                  <br>
                  localhost:/Cin # ./configure --with-single-user
                  --with-onevpl 2>&1 | tee
                  configure_onevpl_support.log<br>
                  <br>
                  No errors found in the log file<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  localhost:/Cin # make 2>&1 | tee
                  make_onevpl_support.log<br>
                  <br>
                  No errors found in the log file<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  localhost:/Cin # make install 2>&1 | tee
                  make_install_onevpl_support.log<br>
                  <br>
                  -----------------<br>
                  <br>
                  >     return qsv profiles you saved before to
                  bin/ffmpeg/video<br>
                  <br>
                  localhost:/Cin/bin/ffmpeg/video # cp
                  /Cin/bin_use_system_ffmpeg-71/ffmpeg/video/*qsv* .<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  -----------------------<br>
                  <br>
                  localhost:/Cin # bin/cin<br>
                  Cinelerra Infinity - built: Oct 24 2024 16:26:16<br>
                  <br>
                  Tested with similar results as my previous ffmpeg_71
                  build:<br>
                  <br>
                  SD-DV to av1_qsv, hevc_qsv and h264_qsv nv12 works<br>
                  HDV to hevc_qsv works with nv12, p010le and yuv422
                  works<br>
                  HDV to av1_qsv and to h264_qsv don't work<br>
                </font></div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">does av1_vaapi work for HDV case?</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <br>
    Yes, I test-rendered HDV (hdv09_04) to hevc_vaapi, av1_vaapi,
    h264_vaapi, all i .mp4 below<br>
    Also FHD (hd01) to av1_vaapi.mp4 worked, see ffprobe below<br>
    <br>
    Testing .webm type breaks with the following output:<br>
    <blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">[av1_vaapi
        @ 0x7f5f74122a80] Driver does not support QVBR RC mode
        (supported modes: CQP, CBR, VBR, ICQ).</font><br>
      <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">FFMPEG::open_encoder 
        err: Invalid argument</font><br>
      <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">int
        FFMPEG::open_encoder(const char*, const char*):</font><br>
      <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">open failed
        av1_vaapi:/Videoklipp/VAAPI/hdv09_04_av1_vaapi.webm</font></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">hm, you probably need to tweak this profile for your driver then ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">so, vaapi works in more cases than qsv, it seems?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote><br>
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    <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">terje@localhost:/Videoklipp/VAAPI>
      ls -lt hd*<br>
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root  root  349812400 okt.  24 20:54
      hdv09_04_hevc_vaapi.mp4<br>
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root  root  112467398 okt.  24 20:42
      hd01_av1_vaapi.mp4<br>
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root  root  606029742 okt.  24 20:35
      hdv09_04_h264_vaapi.mp4<br>
      -rw-r--r-- 1 root  root  378664255 okt.  24 20:28
      hdv09_04_av1_vaapi.mp4<br>
    </font><br>
    <br>
    <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">ffprobe -hide_banner
      hdv09_04_hevc_vaapi.mp4<br>
      Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'hdv09_04_hevc_vaapi.mp4':<br>
        Metadata:<br>
          major_brand     : isom<br>
          minor_version   : 512<br>
          compatible_brands: isomiso2mp41<br>
          encoder         : Lavf61.7.100<br>
        Duration: 00:03:58.88, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 11715 kb/s<br>
        Stream #0:0[0x1](und): Video: hevc (Main) (hev1 / 0x31766568),
      yuv420p(tv, bt470bg/unknown/unknown, top coded first (swapped)),
      1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 11580 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800
      tbn (default)<br>
            Metadata:<br>
              handler_name    : VideoHandler<br>
              vendor_id       : [0][0][0][0]<br>
        Stream #0:1[0x2](und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D),
      48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 129 kb/s (default)<br>
            Metadata:<br>
              handler_name    : SoundHandler<br>
              vendor_id       : [0][0][0][0]<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      ffprobe -hide_banner hd01_av1_vaapi.mp4<br>
      Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'hd01_av1_vaapi.mp4':<br>
        Metadata:<br>
          major_brand     : isom<br>
          minor_version   : 512<br>
          compatible_brands: isomav01iso2mp41<br>
          encoder         : Lavf61.1.100<br>
        Duration: 00:01:11.28, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 12622 kb/s<br>
        Stream #0:0[0x1](und): Video: av1 (libdav1d) (Main) (av01 /
      0x31307661), yuv420p(tv, bt470bg/unknown/unknown, top coded first
      (swapped)), 1920x1080, 12246 kb/s, SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 25 fps, 25
      tbr, 12800 tbn (default)<br>
            Metadata:<br>
              handler_name    : VideoHandler<br>
              vendor_id       : [0][0][0][0]<br>
        Stream #0:1[0x2](und): Audio: aac (LC) (mp4a / 0x6134706D),
      48000 Hz, 16 channels, fltp, 378 kb/s (default)<br>
            Metadata:<br>
              handler_name    : SoundHandler<br>
              vendor_id       : [0][0][0][0]<br>
      <br>
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      <div dir="auto">
        <div dir="auto">can you add auto-scale filter to HDV cases so it
          will be full HD and not 1440*1080 ? or another similar
          rescaling ....</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">again, thanks for testing.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">But as with any experimentation we get some new
          questions instead of pure answers ....</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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                  <br>
                  ===================================<br>
                  <br>
                  In separate posts:<br>
                  Can you possibly setup guideline detail procedure on
                  how to build an appimage and a rpm package of this
                  build,<br>
                  to possible install and test it on my legacy Skylake
                  and Kabylake platforms?<br>
                  <br>
                  ===================================<br>
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        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">I think basic procedure at</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto"><a href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppImage_from_s.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/Build_CinGG_AppImage_from_s.html</a><br>
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        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">starting from</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">2- The script bld_appimage.sh uses a platform
          specific version of appimagetool so that it can create
          appimages for x86_64, i686, aarch64, or armv7l architecture.
          We need to add appimagetool-(platform).AppImage to the /{path
          to cinelerra- 5.1}/tools directory, or somewhere in your path.
          You can download the tool for your system (e.g.
          appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage) from git: <small><kbd><a href="https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases</a></kbd></small><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto"><small><br>
          </small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><small><br>
          </small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><small>for rpm build I think we need to wait for
            this patch to land in git and then become part of monthly
            src tarball.</small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><small><br>
          </small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><small>Then you can edit .spec file with
            soecifix date-based filename to fetch and run</small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><small><br>
          </small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><small><span style="font-size:15px">rpmbuild -bb
              ("build binary") our_spec_file.spec</span><br>
          </small></div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">make</div>
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                            and here?<br>
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                              # make<br>
                              make: *** No targets specified and no
                              makefile found.  Stop.</font><br>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">make
                                                          install</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">return
                                                          qsv profiles
                                                          you saved
                                                          before to
                                                          bin/ffmpeg/video</div>
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                                                          <div dir="auto">bin/cin</div>
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                                                          My system is <br>
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/home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1 # ls bin<br>
COPYING            applications  doc           expanders.txt  info   
                                                          lv2               
                                                          models  
                                                          pixmaps   
                                                          tips         
                                                          zmpeg3ifochk<br>
Cinelerra_factory  bdwrite       <a href="http://expanders.es" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">expanders.es</a>  ffmpeg        
                                                          ladspa 
                                                          lv2_blacklist.txt 
                                                          mplexlo 
                                                          plugins   
                                                          zmpeg3cat    
                                                          zmpeg3show<br>
README             cin           <a href="http://expanders.fr" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">expanders.fr</a>  hveg2enc      
                                                          locale 
                                                          lv2ui             
                                                          msg     
                                                          shuttlerc 
                                                          zmpeg3cc2txt 
                                                          zmpeg3toc<br>
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