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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 03.12.2024 22:20, skrev Andrew
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">вт, 3 дек. 2024 г., 23:59
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                From a previous thread:<br>
                Re: [Cin] another set of test profiles<br>
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                <div>Den 18.10.2024 02:08, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                            <div>Den 17.10.2024 13:51, skrev Andrew
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                                      17 окт. 2024 г., 13:40 Terje J.
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                                        <div>Den 14.10.2024 00:38, skrev
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                                                  14 окт. 2024 г., 01:36
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Andrew, so it seems
                                                      prudent to check
                                                      into GIT, the
                                                      av1_vaapi.mp4
                                                      render format
                                                      (after
                                                      successfully
                                                      tested of course);
                                                      but what about the
                                                      QSV encoders?<br>
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                                            <div dir="auto">wait for
                                              Terje's testing OR try to
                                              build oneVPL-cpu (it sort
                                              of circles back to
                                              different branch of
                                              ffmpeg, so ffmpeg will
                                              think it uses qsv but it
                                              in fact will use another
                                              ffmpeg .... well, in
                                              theory! it does not work
                                              for me on 32-bit!)</div>
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                                        I wonder if Hw accellerated
                                        encoding support via Vaapi and
                                        QSV is to be embedded in future
                                        Cingg Appimage and/or packages
                                        if possible?<br>
                                        What about a list of supported
                                        dGPUs/iGPUs?<br>
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                                <div dir="auto">Problem is - QSV/vaapi 
                                  basically search for driver component
                                  and this one might be in different
                                  location on different distros, and
                                  interface between two also not set in
                                  stone.</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">For appimage you can
                                  just unpack them and remove libva.so
                                  so on startup cingg will link to
                                  system's libva.</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">QSV as we learned is
                                  another layer with their own runtime
                                  path for yet another set of driver
                                  components. So, while building libvpl
                                  itself is relatively easily making
                                  sure it finds its drivers is not easy
                                  (at least for me).</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">speaking about GPU list
                                  I think it will be fairly short,
                                  you,Phyllis and Andrea probably only
                                  ones who use it and report back.
                                  Stephan noticed some troubles and
                                  reverted back to software. I can test
                                  nvdec/nvenc on livecd but this is not
                                  my everyday setup (Nvidia proprietary
                                  drivers enforce 64-bit system).</div>
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                                <div dir="auto">But well, feel free to
                                  post short summary of that works on
                                  your GPUs in cingg as another thread,
                                  hopefully others will chime in!</div>
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                            If we get available a packaged Cingg test
                            build (rpm/Leap for me), it would be more
                            useful to do this test. Then I have
                            available three gen. Intel, legacy
                            Skylake/Kabylake iGPUs and current DG2/Arc
                            GPU. I also have/had a Nvidia GPU on
                            Skylake, but it looks like it past away.<br>
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                    <div dir="auto">I think you can build rpm yourself,
                      but for this we need to update spec file, so it
                      will point at new source and add openvpl as
                      requirements.</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">In meantime  you can just make your
                      own appimage from just build
                      cingg-with-system-ffmpeg, so it hopefully will not
                      be lost after few system updates.</div>
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                Andrew, <br>
                I don't know how busy you are currently with other
                tasks, but i case you have time, I would be interested
                to fulfill this rpm and (possibly Appimage) exercise?<br>
                That is from my current build with third-party
                (internal) ffmpeg7.0.<br>
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        <div dir="auto">for rpm you need to edit blds/cinelerra.spec at
          the very top there is date, I think latest tar version is </div>
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        <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/src/cin_5.1.20241031-src.tgz"
            rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/src/cin_5.1.20241031-src.tgz</a></div>
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        <div dir="auto">so replace 2020 something with 20241031</div>
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        <div dir="auto">but then it need to be patched up, and I do not
          have tested procedure for doing this. Probably rpm  should
          wait until new tagged release .... you can search for rpmbuild
          command on your system and read its manpage/help and may be
          test run it on some other (faster to rebuild) .spec file in
          meantime </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Appimage should be simpler from  existing source
          directory</div>
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        <div dir="auto">just run</div>
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        <div dir="auto">bld_appimage.sh</div>
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        <div dir="auto">but be sure to get additional file and put it 
          where it belong  as described in comment:</div>
        <div dir="auto">=====</div>
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          <div dir="auto"># Get the appropriate appimagetool from <a
              href="https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases"
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          <div dir="auto"># and put it in your path. Only install the
            version for your platform</div>
          <div dir="auto"># and mark it executable. The file name must
            start with "appimagetool".</div>
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          <div dir="auto">====</div>
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          <div dir="auto">probably /usr/local/bin will be simplest
            place  to put it as root?</div>
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    <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">/Cin # sh
      ./bld_appimage.sh<br>
      .....snip<br>
      -- Copying files into AppDir -- <br>
      Copying file image/cin.desktop to
      AppDir/usr/share/applications/cin.desktop <br>
      Copying file image/cin.svg to
      AppDir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/cin.svg <br>
      <br>
      -- Deploying files into AppDir root directory -- <br>
      Deploying files to AppDir root using desktop file:
      AppDir/usr/share/applications/cin.desktop <br>
      Deploying desktop file to AppDir root:
      AppDir/usr/share/applications/cin.desktop <br>
      Creating symlink for file
      AppDir/usr/share/applications/cin.desktop in/as AppDir <br>
      Deploying icon to AppDir root:
      AppDir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/cin.svg <br>
      Creating symlink for file
      AppDir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/cin.svg in/as AppDir
      <br>
      Deploying AppRun symlink for executable in AppDir root:
      AppDir/usr/bin/cin <br>
      Creating symlink for file AppDir/usr/bin/cin in/as AppDir/AppRun <br>
      Found appimagetool: /usr/local/bin/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage<br>
      Running command: /usr/local/bin/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage
      "appimagetool" "AppDir" "</font><br>
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    Thanks, I think I got AppImage(?) built and it seemingly runs OK.<br>
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    That is when I found the CinGG executable file, because I expected a
    file somewhere with a name "CinGG*.AppImage"<br>
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    <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">/Cin # file -sh
      AppDir/*<br>
      AppDir/AppRun:      symbolic link to usr/bin/cin<br>
      AppDir/cin.desktop: symbolic link to
      usr/share/applications/cin.desktop<br>
      AppDir/cin.svg:     symbolic link to
      usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/cin.svg<br>
      AppDir/usr:         directory<br>
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      Cin # du -sh AppDir<br>
      216M    AppDir<br>
      <br>
      /Cin # du -sh AppDir/*/*<br>
      198M    AppDir/usr/bin<br>
      19M    AppDir/usr/lib<br>
      100K    AppDir/usr/share<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      /Cin # AppDir/usr/bin/cin<br>
      Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 20 2024 22:06:05<br>
      .......<br>
      BC_DisplayInfo::gl_fb_config failed<br>
      build plugin index for:
      /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/AppDir/usr/bin/plugins<br>
      PluginFFilter::new_ffilter(overlay_qsv)<br>
        err: Input/output error<br>
      PluginFFilter::new_ffilter(hstack_qsv)<br>
        err: Operation not permitted<br>
      PluginFFilter::new_ffilter(vstack_qsv)<br>
        err: Operation not permitted<br>
      PluginFFilter::new_ffilter(xstack_qsv)<br>
        err: Operation not permitted<br>
      build lv2 index for: $CIN_PATH/lv2<br>
      build ladspa plugin index for:
      /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/AppDir/usr/bin/ladspa<br>
      <br>
      Loaded hdv09_04.m2t (tff interlaced)<br>
      Tested rendering using preset hevc_qsv_10b420 which worked fine<br>
      <br>
      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
      libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
      libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
      libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
      libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
      Render::render_single: Session finished.<br>
      ** rendered 5972 frames in 19.320 secs, 309.110 fps<br>
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      So some questions when comparing the above AppDir result with the
      pre-build Appimage file I download to and run from<br>
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      du -sh ~/Applications/Cin*<br>
      171M    CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage<br>
      <br>
      ./</font><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage</font><br>
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      I notice the prebuild has no symlink as in the above AppDir<br>
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      My own built appimage has not startup errors:<br>
      <br>
      (AppImageLauncher:127697): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: 23:56:28.831:
      gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion 'GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)'
      failed<br>
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      I wonder the larger total space 216M vs 171M is due to oneVPL and
      maybe some other additional libs ?<br>
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      How to possibly build an equivalent single AppImage file directly?<br>
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