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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 07.12.2024 22:10, skrev Phyllis
      Smith:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOckJE1spRPSzXaUGpb8aveSVVjcfAvB+g-YpZLthHiaawvmgQ@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I will find a
          drop site and email it, but it may not be until tomorrow.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The
          difference in size of the AppImage is due to the addition of
          the Online Manual that Georgy incorporated 4 years ago.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It is
          definitely advantageous to have and easy to do but looks like
          I did not put this in the Manual so I will write that up.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Basically
          before you produce your AppImage (after the build is
          finished), you just copy all of the HTML files to bin/doc so
          that there are there when you create the AppImage.  More
          later..<br>
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    Yes, I see from the "bld_appimage.sh" output that there were
    executed two cp commands for html<br>
    <blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cp -a
        cinelerra.html /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/doc/../bin/doc/.<br>
        cp -a shortcuts.html
        /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/doc/../bin/doc/.</font><br>
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    The problem is there were just a few basic html files in
    /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/doc/ and no real online manual?<br>
    <blockquote><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">cinelerra.html     
        doc_2002.html       installation.html  ShellCmds_ru.html</font><br>
      <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">configuration.html 
        help_br_index.html  ShellCmds_en.html  shortcuts.html</font><br>
      <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">current.html       
        history.html        ShellCmds_es.html</font><br>
      <font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">doc_2000.html      
        index.html          ShellCmds.html</font><br>
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    So I need to know from where and how to copy these html files?<br>
    <br>
    A minor question is that the default file name from the bld script
    is "cin-x86_64.AppImage"<br>
    Can the bld_appimage.sh take the wanted file name as argument, or is
    it just fine to rename it afterwards?<br>
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cite="mid:CAOckJE1spRPSzXaUGpb8aveSVVjcfAvB+g-YpZLthHiaawvmgQ@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at
          12:17 PM Terje J. Hanssen <<a
            href="mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">terjejhanssen@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div>Den 07.12.2024 19:25, skrev Phyllis Smith:<br>
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Great!
                  somehow we need to get all of this documented as far
                  as the build procedure and usage goes to include in
                  the Manual.  It would be difficult for anyone who does
                  not have this "gourmet" hardware to do that.  In
                  addition, I can put Terje's AppImage on the website
                  for other users to download for testing and usage --
                  that would be appreciated.  Since the AppImage is
                  large, it would have to be first uploaded to a "drop
                  site" for me to download.  But that is up to Terje. 
                  Thanks for this great effort and info.<br>
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            Phyllis, of course I can upload the Appimage for what it is
            worth. If you have a url to a drop site, you can possibly
            mail it to me. Currently I have none in use myself.<br>
            I was wondering a bit why this AppImage size is "just" 94.8
            MB compared with 178.8 MB for the usual
            CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage (?)<br>
            <br>
            And not to forget: it is thanks to Andrew's patchwork and
            time consuming guiding that has made this possible !<br>
            <br>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at
                  10:40 AM Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <<a
                    href="mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                  <div> After the successful Appimage build with OneVPL
                    for QSV on Alder Lake (i7-12700/Arc A750),  the time
                    has come as proof of contest to test if it also
                    works on legacy Intel iGPU hardware.<br>
                    <br>
                    Extracted from the Fixed-function Quick Sync Video
                    format support for HEVC one should expect <br>
                    <a
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video#Hardware_decoding_and_encoding"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video#Hardware_decoding_and_encoding</a><br>
                    <ul>
                      <li>The Skylake microarchitecture implementation
                        adds a full fixed-function H.265/HEVC 8-bit
                        4:2:0 decoding and encoding acceleration, hybrid
                        and partial HEVC 10-bit decoding acceleration,</li>
                    </ul>
                    <ul>
                      <li>The Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, Whiskey Lake and
                        Comet Lake microarchitectures implementation
                        adds full fixed-function H.265/HEVC 10-bit 4:2:0
                        decoding and encoding acceleration,</li>
                    </ul>
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                      1) Sky Lake:<br>
                      ------------<br>
                      CPU:<br>
                       Info: quad core model: Intel Core i7-6700K bits:
                      64 type: MT MCP cache:<br>
                      Graphics:<br>
                        Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 530 driver: i915 v:
                      kernel<br>
                        (Device-2: NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 960]
                      driver: N/A)<br>
                      <br>
                      ~/Application> ./cin-x86_64.AppImage<br>
                      Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 20 2024 22:0<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Loaded hdv09_04.m2t (tff interlaced)<br>
                      <br>
                      Rendered to hevc_qsv_8b420<br>
                      ---------------------------<br>
                      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
                      libva info: Trying to open
                      /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
                      libva info: Found init function
                      __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
                      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
                      Render::render_single: Session finished.<br>
                      ** rendered 5972 frames in 66.227 secs, 90.175 fps<br>
                      <br>
                      ffprobe -hide_banner hdv09_04_hevc_qsv_8b420.mp4<br>
                        Stream #0:0[0x1](und): Video: hevc (Main) (hev1
                      / 0x31766568), yuvj420p(pc,
                      smpte170m/unknown/unknown, top coded first
                      (swapped)), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 4918
                      kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn (default)<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Test hevc_qsv_10b420 failed<br>
                      ---------------------------<br>
                      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
                      libva info: Trying to open
                      /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
                      libva info: Found init function
                      __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
                      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
                      [hevc_qsv @ 0x7fe508025980] Low power mode is
                      unsupported<br>
                      [hevc_qsv @ 0x7fe508025980] Current pixel format
                      is unsupported<br>
                      [hevc_qsv @ 0x7fe508025980] some encoding
                      parameters are not supported by the QSV runtime.
                      Please double check the input parameters.<br>
                      <br>
                      FFMPEG::open_encoder  err: Function not
                      implemented<br>
                      int FFMPEG::open_encoder(const char*, const
                      char*):<br>
                      open failed
                      hevc_qsv:/run/media/terje/video/hdv09_04_hevc_qsv_10b420.mp4<br>
                      Render::render_single: Session finished.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      2) Kaby Lake<br>
                      -----------<br>
                      CPU:<br>
                        Info: quad core model: Intel Core i7-8550U bits:
                      64 type: MT MCP cache:<br>
                      Graphics:<br>
                        Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 driver: i915 v:
                      kernel<br>
                      <br>
                      ~/Application> ./cin-x86_64.AppImage<br>
                      Cinelerra Infinity - built: Nov 20 2024 22:0<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Loaded hdv09_04.m2t (tff interlaced)<br>
                      <br>
                      Rendered to hevc_qsv_8b420<br>
                      ---------------------------<br>
                      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
                      libva info: Trying to open
                      /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
                      libva info: Found init function
                      __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
                      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
                      Render::render_single: Session finished.<br>
                      ** rendered 5972 frames in 59.564 secs, 100.262
                      fps<br>
                      <br>
                      ffprobe -hide_banner hdv09_04_hevc_qsv_8b420.mp4<br>
                      Stream #0:0[0x1](und): Video: hevc (Main) (hev1 /
                      0x31766568), yuvj420p(pc,
                      smpte170m/unknown/unknown, top coded first
                      (swapped)), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 4018
                      kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn (default)<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Rendered to hevc_qsv_10b420<br>
                      ---------------------------<br>
                      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
                      libva info: Trying to open
                      /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
                      libva info: Found init function
                      __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
                      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
                      Render::render_single: Session finished.<br>
                      ** rendered 5972 frames in 79.061 secs, 75.537 fps<br>
                      <br>
                      ffprobe -hide_banner hdv09_04_hevc_qsv_10b420.mp4<br>
                      Stream #0:0[0x1](und): Video: hevc (Main 10) (hev1
                      / 0x31766568), yuv420p10le(pc,
                      smpte170m/unknown/unknown, top coded first
                      (swapped)), 1440x1080 [SAR 4:3 DAR 16:9], 25630
                      kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 12800 tbn (default)<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      Test hevc_qsv_10b422 failed:<br>
                      ----------------------------<br>
                      libva info: VA-API version 1.22.0<br>
                      libva info: Trying to open
                      /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so<br>
                      libva info: Found init function
                      __vaDriverInit_1_22<br>
                      libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0<br>
                      [hevc_qsv @ 0x7f8e74000bc0] Low power mode is
                      unsupported<br>
                      [hevc_qsv @ 0x7f8e74000bc0] Current pixel format
                      is unsupported<br>
                      [hevc_qsv @ 0x7f8e74000bc0] some encoding
                      parameters are not supported by the QSV runtime.
                      Please double check the input parameters.<br>
                      FFMPEG::open_encoder  err: Function not
                      implemented<br>
                      int FFMPEG::open_encoder(const char*, const
                      char*):<br>
                      open failed
                      hevc_qsv:/home/terje/Videos/hdv09_04_hevc_qsv_10b422.mp4<br>
                      Render::render_single: Session finished.<br>
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                    <br>
                    Conclusion:<br>
                    -------------------<br>
                    The above simple tests show that the QSV enabled
                    Appimage with OneVPL works also on legacy and other
                    Intel hardware.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
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                  -- <br>
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