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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Den 09.12.2024 15:14, skrev Andrew
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                <div>Den 09.12.2024 13:29, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:<br>
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                  <div>Den 09.12.2024 13:25, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:<br>
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                            2024 г., 15:22 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <<a
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                              <div>Den 08.12.2024 23:06, skrev Terje J.
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                                <div>Den 08.12.2024 22:39, skrev Phyllis
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                                        class="gmail_default">There must
                                        be some kind of interference
                                        when you try to email the large
                                        file.  Did you actually send
                                        from your Gmail account or your
                                        teknikk account.? When I try to
                                        send a large file from my gmail
                                        account, it says it is too big
                                        and automatically uploads it to
                                        the google drive and gives me a
                                        link.  I just sent you one now
                                        so you can see and delete it.<br>
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                                My old teknikk account is expired. I use
                                Thunderbird as email client IMAP
                                connected to my gmail account.<br>
                                For one or another reason the connection
                                has been horrible slow since yesterday.
                                But now I have sent you a filelink I
                                hope you receive.<br>
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                                                I try first to send it
                                                without the manual, in
                                                case issues to get it
                                                included. I've
                                                experienced issues
                                                before with file
                                                attachments larger than
                                                ca. 30 MB, either it is
                                                due to the sender or
                                                receiver side, I don't
                                                know.<br>
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                                                  <div>So I need to know
                                                    from where and how
                                                    to copy these html
                                                    files?<br>
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                                                <div> <a
href="https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz"
rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/HTML_Manual-20241031.tgz</a></div>
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                                                  <div
style="font-size:small">Just download the tgz file and tar xvf to
                                                    wherever you have
                                                    bin/doc so it can be
                                                    copied to AppDir/usr
                                                    in bld_appimage.sh.<br>
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                              Yes, I copied all manual files to bin/doc,
                              and repeat the steps as follows, to get
                              verified if something is wrong:<br>
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HTML_Manual-20241031/CinelerraGG_Manual/**
                                /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc<br>
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                                so now the total in AppDir/usr/bin/doc
                                is 1007 elements, 80.3 MB<br>
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                                Ran bld_appimage.sh again and now have
                                CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage 166.5 MB<br>
                                (which still is smaller than the
                                previous CinGG-20241031-x86_64.AppImage
                                178.8 MB)<br>
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                                While Manual Help works for the latter,
                                it doesn't load for the new AppImage:<br>
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                                ~/Applications>
                                ./CinGG-20241120-x86_64.AppImage<br>
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                                Alt+h<br>
                                <br>
                                Cannot open
                                /tmp/.mount_CinGG-24Mpo2/usr/bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual/Contents.html:
                                No such file or directory at
                                /home/terje/.bcast5/ContextManual.pl
                                line 205.<br>
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                                Is this a known issue and possibly how
                                to solve it?<br>
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                      <div dir="auto">may be you should move in folder
                        named <span
style="font-family:"courier new",courier,monospace;font-size:12.8px">CinelerraGG_Manual
                          and not its content?</span></div>
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                  Yeah, I thought of that, but forgot to ask that
                  question. I was in doubt as I think "all html files"
                  was mentioned<br>
                  Try to cleanup and make appimage again.<br>
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                Still no success to put the whole Manual folder in <br>
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                  HTML_Manual-20241031/CinelerraGG_Manual
                  /home/cinelerra/cinelerra-5.1/bin/doc<br>
                  <br>
                  Alt+h<br>
                  <br>
                  sh: line 1:
                  /tmp/.mount_CinGG-iDrVm0/usr/bin/doc/ContextManual.pl:
                  No such file or directory<br>
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        <div dir="auto">so, it was more correct first time, just perl
          script was unable to find Contents.html</div>
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        <div dir="auto">may be it was named contents.html, from
          lowercase c ?</div>
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    "Contents.html" looks to be the correct one as verified here from
    the latest Manual folder:<br>
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      /Cin/AppDir/usr/bin/doc/CinelerraGG_Manual<br>
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      ls Content* content*<br>
      Contents.html  contents.png<br>
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      There looks to be a doc build difference somewhere between my
      AppImage vs the the official AppImage?  <br>
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                                I thought Manual Help should work before
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                                          Oh, there it is. Actually I
                                          had stored a 2023 version on
                                          my system, but now tried to
                                          "download" the HTML manual
                                          from here, and it only
                                          displayed in Firefox :)<br>
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                                                    Can the
                                                    bld_appimage.sh take
                                                    the wanted file name
                                                    as argument, or is
                                                    it just fine to
                                                    rename it
                                                    afterwards?<br>
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                                                <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It is just fine to name it
                                                    afterwards; that is
                                                    what I do when
                                                    renaming for the
                                                    website to include
                                                    the date.</span></div>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><font
face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">opening index.html and
                                                          "cinelerra.html"
                                                          is "Secrets of
                                                          Cinelerra",
                                                          Version 4.1 by
                                                          Adam Williams</font></span></div>
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                                                  <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We always want to have
                                                      these files with
                                                      the source to
                                                      recognize
                                                      Cinelerra's origin
                                                      and continuance.<br>
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class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span>And not to forget:
                                                      it is thanks to
                                                      Andrew's patchwork
                                                      and time consuming
                                                      guiding that has
                                                      made this possible
                                                      !<br>
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                                                  <div><span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Yes, that goes without
                                                      saying, but I
                                                      should have said
                                                      it anyway.</span></div>
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                                          It was merely intended for
                                          possibly others coming to and
                                          read this later :)<br>
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